• state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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    So many people don’t understand that children are people and people have rights. You are responsible for your children, you don’t own them. If you don’t like that, simply don’t have kids.

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      To the people downvoting this, you are the problem.

      Children are people, not your property. You owe your kids a loving, caring, and supportive environment because it was your choice to have them. They did not choose to be born, they did not choose you as parents, they do not owe you anything. If you treat them well, they will support you and love you. If they do not, then you did something wrong.

      If you think your children owe you anything, don’t have kids and go see a therapist.

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        I think they are downvoting because of the implication that having a not-cringy legal name is a legal right. In almost all places, it isn’t. The general sentiment of the comment is correct - you shouldn’t do stupid bullshit to your kids for your own amusement. But saying it is a “right” is incorrect in a very weird way.

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          Well… I think that point could be argued. Both the EU charter and the German constitution say right at the start in article 1 that “Human dignity is inviolable”. I’d say that giving your kid some dumbass name violates their dignity. So it is very much a legal right.

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          I do think its a right for people to not have stupid cringey names. Thats part of why you can legally change your name. Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, children are not granted that ability and are thus stuck with their shitty name their parent gave them.

          Do I think naming your child Jahckqylynn is child abuse? No, but should children be condemned to 18 years of living with that name because their parents are cringey and dumb? I also think no. Now naming your child Margarita Corona? Yes that is fucked up and borderline child abuse

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            They can legally change their name before 18, in merkkka anyway. But yea its harder as a minor, and outside of last name changed for marriage its a lot of beaurocratic bs, ie time and money. I dont mean to counter your point, its a valid point. But for any Jackleneighs or whatever the fuck whod rather be Jackies, or Jackies whod rather be James, its possible sooner than 18. Again it be easier to wait tho…

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    At my job, I come across a lot of children’s names. So many, that I can actually sympathize with parents who want an odd name. Names are supposed to be a unique identifier, so if you wanna name a kid “Revolution Fighter” or “Czarlanda,” I get it. I can certainly find a kid with that name in our databases faster than I can find a “John Anderson” or an “Adam Wu.”

    What really kills me is parents who name their kids a normal sounding name, but with an insane spelling. I’m talking like “Shelley” spelled “Schelei” or “Alexander” spelled “Alexzander.” You’re not being clever or cute, you’re just going to make your child’s life unnecessarily harder as they have to spell their name out every. single. time.

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      I read this a while ago (scroll down into section II for the graphs) which conducted a survey to see how happy people were with their names. The consensus seems to be that, for the most part, people just want names that don’t annoy them constantly. Very common names rank lower than less common names, until the names become very uncommon. More normal or traditional names rank higher than more modern or creative names.

      The conclusion I drew was that people want a normal name spelled a normal way, that is not too common. Why? Because if your name is too common, you are always confused with other people (cue saying “Michael” in a crowded room and having 5 people turn towards you). But if your name is too uncommon, people will constantly mis-spell and mispronounce it, so you will constantly either be correcting people or having to ignore it. If you have a common name with a unique spelling, then people will always misspell your name unless you spell it out for them. And of course, if you are named after a sci fi character or a name that rhymes with your twin, you will probably be bullied for it in middle school.

      So if you are naming a kid, your best bet is to look through the current common baby names and pick one somewhere between 100 and 1000 most popular, after eliminating weird spellings or names that can easily be turned into mean nicknames. Bonus points if you can tie the name into your cultural heritage or you have an admirable anscestor to name your kid after.

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        A simple safe bet is to choose a name from a related language.

        For example, Renato is common in Portuguese but not in Spanish, however no Spanish speaking person is going to misspell it (and to this example, I doubt anyone speaking a European language would)

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        I have a first name that’s been in use for a couple thousand years now. I’m happy with it. They’re classics for a reason.

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        I have friends with really common names, like Mike and Robert Jones common. They don’t want to change it, but it has been a tremendous pain in their asses. It’s annoying to be the 3rd person in your class with the same first name, but imagine having a high school class with someone who has the same first and last name.

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      We still have about 5 years before the first wave of incorrectly-spelled Khaleesis start showing up at county courthouses en masse.

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          It’s a title given to Daenerys in Game of Thrones, the Doth’raki word for “queen”. Her subjects call her that but a lot of dumbasses thought it was her name.

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      That spelling of Alexzander a lot of times comes from non American countries (maybe Czech? Unsure)

      Look at Alex Lifesons real name lol. I cant spell it

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        He has a Serbian name though, which is definitely not the same as just spelling it weird on purpose.

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        Not actually why they did it. I can quote the parent here, because for some reason they felt the need to immediately justify the spelling. “I just thought it’d be cool to do something different.”

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      name out every. single. time.

      “Czarlanda,” I get it. I

      Names aren’t supposed to be unique. Your whole name doesn’t even need to be unique. And when you adda middle-name or two, no matter what basic ass names you’ve chosen it’s gonna be unlikely that anyone within reasonable distance would be named exactly the same.

      Thank God my country has a law preventing this type of child abuse

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    One of my favorite court transcripts is Sheppard v. Speir.

    The Court:  All right.   Now, do you have some objection to him being renamed Samuel Charles?

    Sheppard:  Yes.

    The Court:  Why? You think it’s better for his name to be Weather’by Dot Com Chanel-

    Sheppard:  Well, the-

    The Court:  Just a minute for the record.

    Sheppard:  Sorry.

    The Court:  Chanel Fourcast, spelled F-o-u-r-c-a-s-t?   And in response to that question, I want you to think about what he’s going to be-what his life is going to be like when he enters the first grade and has to fill out all [the] paperwork where you fill out-this little kid fills out his last name and his first name and his middle name, okay?   So I just want-if your answer to that is yes, you think his name is better today than it would be with Samuel Charles, as his father would like to name him and why.   Go ahead.

    Sheppard:  Yes, I think it’s better this way.

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      That was a wild read, thanks for sharing. I’m so glad the kid had a father that cared, and that he got the custody and succeeded in changing that name!

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      Read the whole thing. That was wild. I think, alone, Weatherby (said together) isn’t the worst name I’ve ever heard but all the rest is cuckoo banana pants. Based on what came out of the court proceedings that woman had some PROBLEMS.

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      I feel like the most shocking part of all of this is that this woman who is in and out of jail, has 3 other kids, and can’t hold down a job for more than a few weeks managed to get a whole-ass trial about this.

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    The Motel doesnt have a problem with it, why would you?

    Other notable pop references, if dated AF, a boy named Sue.

    My recent favorite of a real person (I check birth certs and passports at work) was first name Independence, middle name Infinity Excellence. Im gonna change the last name, but it was akin to Smith.

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      I get naming your kid after a cultural figure, but it drives me nuts that so many people believe her name is khaleesi.

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        Plenty of people might actually think that, but Prince, Queen, Princess, and different variations in different languages are common enough names already. It’s possible plenty to most of those people just like the title and know it’s not her actual name. Not directed at you, just some people might not realize that the phenomenon was popular before GoT existed.

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        Particularly when the spelling of Daenerys already had a major “millennial parent” aesthetic.

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    I know someone with relatives in China where they gave their kids nicknames that roughly translate to “first baby”, “second baby”, etc. They’re all middle aged adults now and they’re still addressed by the same nicknames. So you have kids listening to their grandparents talk about “second baby” and imagining a baby, but then you meet them and it’s an old man.

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      A number of traditional names the world over are literally “first son”, etc. Not to mention all the names that mean “so-and-so got me pregnant with this one.” Normal names are only normal because we’re used to them, not because they aren’t made-up bullshit.

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        70% of the names have a meaning usually, at least the most used names in Italy have a meaning in a way or another, so i suppose it’s the same for all the countries

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          I think people in English have lost the connection between their name and its original meaning. No one thinks about the fact that naming your kid “Peter” is the same as naming him “Rock”, or that a brook(e) is a little river.

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            I think everyone knows what Brooke means. Brooks (the rivers) are nice. And it is now a common name. So Brooke is a reasonable thing to name a girl. Similar to Rose or Ruby.

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            I think it’s for all languages, if the name is not very similiar or the same to the original word or meaning it’s hard for someone to make a connection. So yeah, i agree

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              We don’t teach meaning of names anymore that’s the big one. My coworker just had a kid and ran a list of like 5 names past me. When I pointed out what each one means and their origin he firmly threw all of them out the window and was horrified.

              It was mostly random bullshit names with weird spellings.

              He ended up naming his kid Herma. Which he claimed sounded nice, when I asked him if he knew what the word ment he said no.

              His new daughter has a very unfortunate name.

              His kid but like man… That’s goanna suck later in life.

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                  From what i gather herman is germanic for “army/warrior man” and herma is a feminine version. Both derived from the greek god, Hermes.

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                In my family (and some friends families too) sometimes we came up with a name and think about the meaning of that meaning too, idk how much common is it tbh.

                I think it really depend on the culture