• itztalal@lemmings.world
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    1 day ago

    I definitely think electromagnetism is magical from our perspective.

    Everything else is pretty crude and we have to start looking inward for anything resembling magic.

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    I argue that magic doesn’t exist by definition. If it actually, provably, exists we define it as not magical. Why isn’t magnetism considered magic? Because it exists and can be studied.

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    5 days ago

    I like the idea that there is a God, hes just the programmer of our simulation. Magic was real, in the form of exploitable glitches, and got patched out as time went on.

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    I vaguely remember a quote about magic that can apply to anything. Someone taking something ordinary, and doing something extra ordinary with it.

    A deck of cards isn’t magic, but what the person DOES with it can be magical. Same with amusician and a musical instrument , or a writer with a pen and paper.

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    7 days ago

    Fire, electricty, gravity and magnetism is magic, and you cant convince me otherwise.

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    7 days ago

    Technology deals with mostly physical things, magic is mostly non physical. This isn’t some official definition just a better one. Real magic doesn’t deal with matter or energy in the ways most people are familiar with it.

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    I think it’s magic how the sum time sunk into a thing can be greater than the time it took to make the thing.

    It’s magic when 20 hours goes into a painting and it generates (5 minutes * 300) worth of emotions.

    It took Tolkein more energy / emotion to make LotR than I’m willing to give appreciating it. But everyone combined has certainly outweighed what Tolkein put in. It’s magic to me to think of “free” “emotion hours”.

    Everything else is so… crass. Transactional. A battery that holds X energy means the sum energy people can extract would be X at best. I have 7 hotdogs and so at most 7 people can each have one.

    But art? Games? Puzzles? It’s magic how there’s basically infinite energy inside.

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      I think it’s magic how the sum time sunk into a thing can be greater than the time it took to make the thing.

      It’s magic when 20 hours goes into a painting and it generates (5 minutes * 300) worth of emotions.

      This is why I like music. I’m not spending 100 hours to make something someone will look at for 10 seconds.

      I played this guitar part for 5 mins? You listen to it for 5 mins. (creation time may be multiplied by fuckups and overdubs/additional tracks)

  • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    Magic was never real. It was technology all along.

    People were incredibly stupid when the churches didn’t allow education for the masses.

    A Yo-Yo would have made you a magician. It’s not a magical feeling to be worshipped by idiots for knowing how a Yo-Yo works. It’s just sad.

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    Belief in magic is kind of hard to define, anthropologically—we tend to call anything that contradicts currently-known laws of physics “magic”, but that makes the term contingent on the observer’s knowledge rather than the believer’s. (For instance, things like astrology and alchemy that we regard as magic now were thought to be the result of natural forces in the Middle Ages.) But there are other things the believers themselves agree are “magic”, even if they think they can explain it.

    For myself, I would call magic the belief that there are multiple, independent systems of causality, whether the believer fully understands those systems or not—and by that definition, technology isn’t magic for most people.

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    7 days ago

    People look into space and say “I don’t see God” like bro- you see objects so huge and so far apart we measure their distance in the time it takes light to travel between them and us- what were you expecting to see?

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    I saw something once along the lines of “if there was a novel where they harnessed a magical force that was thought to come from the sky, and it was used for everything, like powering devices that keep food fresh, and long distance communication, and said the majority of people had no idea of how it worked we’d call it lazy writing, but that’s just a description of electricity” paraphrased a bit, but ye :3

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      Plus we can imbue crystals with thought and knowledge by inscribing them with complex runes and commanding them in a special language.

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        Main difference is that, in fiction, the “imbuing” doesn’t require a billion-dollar fab.

        I mean, there are a few intrepid techno-wizards trying to do it themselves, but it’s a far cry from what Big Magic can manage.

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          Yes, but that bullion dollar industry only grew over time. The first crystals were made in small labs pushing the edge of magic. If you let a magical world develop industrialization long enough, surely they will try to optimize their magic as far as possible as well

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            That’s how you tear down the fabric of space and demons ruins the world though.

            looks at climate change

            Oh…

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      I saw one comment and was sure it’d be the Arthur C. Clarke quote. I like your one, I hadn’t seen it before.

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    Software is the closest thing we have to magic spells. You need to know the correct “activation words” and make sure they follow the correct order. If that aligns, your magic spell works; suddenly there’s something on the screen that just wasn’t there before. Congratulations, you completed your first summoning.