1.5°C climat goal is gone with 2024/2025 being every day being above that. A positive view of science says we are heading to a 2.7°C hell by 2100. Thought with current politics that is highly doubtful and we might already have that with 2050.
Especially fellow young people, i would like to hear your look apon the future, are you doing something now because you probably wont be able to do it in the future?
How will you imagine life will be like? Will you have to move because of the rising sea levels?
For me i see black. Its over and this is the coldest we will ever have it. I am enjoying somewhat livible summers and lukewarm winters (I remember when there was snow) as long as i can. The future is done for and im angry and sadend by all the people that dont care or actively fight against enviormental policies and living
By calling it the “coming dystopia” and “a 2.7°C hell” you’re starting this question off with a highly biased direction indeed.
The whole world isn’t going to turn into some kind of Mad Max inferno of devastation and death. Some parts of it will become less habitable, and there may be mass migration as a result, but most of the world is going to still be perfectly livable afterwards. It’s the disruption of shifting everything around that’s going to be the biggest problem.
However, I have now committed a heresy by saying climate change is not the Apocalypse, so this will get downvoted. The answers more in line with the “it’s the end of the world” narrative will be upvoted instead, people will have their fear reaffirmed (for fear leads to anger, and anger leads to dopamine), and ironically this may lead to less useful preparation in the long run that exacerbates the problem.
“All opinions other than mine are only supported by dopamine highs” - wow, what a great new way of being condescendingly dismissive!
OP actually left the consequences of climate change open. No, it probably won’t be a Mad Max inferno. Probably not. But we also don’t know where the tipping point of the oceans is, because they are storing a shit ton of carbon. Hit that tipping point, and that carbon may well suddenly be released into the air, and then the shit hits the fan.
But even if that scenario doesn’t happen, and the world is still theoretically perfectly livable, you mentioned one of the main problems: mass migration. We already see what that’s doing today. We’re not far away from World War 3 anymore. So yes, the question is perfectly legitimate.
(And before anyone thinks it: I’m not blaming the migrants, of course they’re not at fault, they have every right to look for a better life. The people at fault are entirely different, but it doesn’t change the fact there is a causational relationship)
As I commented elsewhere, a lot of people in our generation are masking deep seated suicidal fantasies and convincing themselves that they are a valid response to the world around them. That’s obviously not good for anybody and makes them just as volatile as the other death cults currently in existence.
And ironically, it makes them quick to reject any attempts to make things better. Why bother attempting solution X when we’re all just going to die anyway? Eat, drink, and be merry!
The thing that bothers me a lot about this is how many people oppose even doing research into geoengineering. It’s like they fear the possibility that a solution will be found, thus disrupting the conclusions of doom that they’ve already come to and apparently found some kind of strange comfort in believing.
I can’t speculate to the motivations of random internet users but yeah, committing your identity to a catastrophe of any kind is some serious dysfunction. It’s like they have just discovered that the universe is unfair so their naivety demands that it leads to cosmic retribution.
Ignorantly believing there will be minimal consequences to our unplanned terraform is why we are in this mess. The problem is not simply “climate change”. Ecological collapse is a much larger concern. We are significantly altering the chemistry of the entire biosphere; the atmosphere, land and ocean with literally thousands of chemical compounds. We have killed off ~70% of the natural worlds macroscopic organisms over the last 50-100 years, and are already at the point where 95+% of all animal biomass is our livestock. We consider species “not endangered” if there are like 10k of them. Does 10k humans isolated to one geography sound like a healthy, extinction-resistant population?
It’s not gonna be 2.7c by 2100. It will be 3-4c. We were told we wouldn’t hit 1.5c until ~2035 and we’re already there — as I’ve believed for over a decade, because I actually listen to scientists instead of fossil-fuel-operated political orgs like the IPCC — and we’re on track to blow past 2c before 2050. ~25% of all Co2 ever emitted was in the last ~15 years, and another ~25% will be emitted in the next ~15. We can’t predict compounding feedback loops we know little about, or any of the many unknown unknowns that are guaranteed to exist.
I’m not saying the world will definitely be a “Mad Max inferno of devastation and death” — the entire natural world has already been through the majority phase of “devastation and death” — but everyone living today would almost certainly consider 2100 to be a dystopia.
Whoever said the consequences would be “minimal?” I’m saying they won’t be apocalyptic. It’s not the literal end of the world, as so many people are fretting about. People are deciding not to have children because they think humanity’s going to go extinct in a generation or two.
Well there you go, then.
People are not having kids because they believe their children will be worse off than they are; that persistent inflation, natural disasters, famine, resource wars, actual wars, austerity, mass migrations, fascism/feudalism are all but guaranteed for a majority of humanity over the next century.
Barely anyone believes or cares about us going completely extinct.
Stop straw manning, nobody said it will be the apocalypse or the end of the world, they said it would be a dystopia or at the very least pretty shitty to what we have right now.
This is like telling a Roman as the empire is falling: “don’t worry it’s not the end of the world, sure a barbarian horde might come through every couple years raping, burning and pillaging, but you’ll survive”
Natural disasters are gonna get worse, famine and food insecurity are gonna become more common, mass migration causes a lot of social strife. Again going back to the roman example a large reason for the fall was the huns moving into Europe causing cascading migrations that destroyed the empire. All of this sounds pretty dystopic to me, maybe not mad max levels, but definitely parable of the power levels.
There are people literally rooting for human extinction in this very thread.