Don’t be a vote connoisseur here please. Redefine how you think about voting and participating.

Do you miss your communities from elsewhere. Well guess what, you are that core community now. If you want it back, the only thing holding you back is you. Don’t wait on someone else to start posting. You don’t need to worry about the perfect polished quality of your content or if it has been done before elsewhere. The current bar is, umm, poorly defined. No one is judging you. Call it practice. EVERY time you see something interesting, get in the habit of posting it please. Maybe go out of your way to grab a reference or two and post them.

Along these lines, think of how unsure and uncomfortable this may seem to most of us former lurker connoisseurs. You can play hard and thick skinned all you want, but you know exactly what post or comment you posted elsewhere that got the most votes or interaction. Why? Because it matters to you. So upvote everything you can. It matters to someone else too. Don’t upvote just for the value or interest you have in the content. Do it just to say “hey, thanks for making the effort to participate and make this place a few lines longer.” Please rethink how you handle voting, at least for now, think of a down vote as FU for participating, no votes as I wish you weren’t here. We are all likely accustomed to a lot more interaction and validation in our own little niches. This is really an underpinning value of social media, we are here to engage with people, so tell people who are new and unsure about a new and different place, “hey, thanks for participating.” You may not know or really appreciate their interests, but you can help us grow a core that can evolve into your favorite niches as the community grows. You are the core community. We can all make it grow if we make it a place people want to be.

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    Yeah, we just need a bit more of a push. I think some people may be a bit too fixated on reaching Reddit’s numbers; we really don’t need to. I don’t care if the top comment has 50 upvotes instead of 50,000, what I want is more comments, more posts, more experts in a field sharing their invaluable opinions.

    Obviously it will take some time to reach the level of granularity some subreddits have. Like, we have a design sub, a good design sub, an ashole design sub, a crappy design sub (which is like asshole design, but unintentional), a design design sub (for awful designs that are also somehow aesthetic)… And all this without going into specific design subs (web design, brand design, structure design…). Yeah, we may not have all those for a while, we enthusiasts may all have to interact in a general Lemmy Design community, but guess what? That is how Reddit got where it is now.

    Personally, I am enjoying the process. I’ve been lurking Reddit for years, reading awesome posts, and informing myself on all kinds of topics from people I won’t ever begin to compare to. But Lemmy, for the moment, feels more intimate to me, I am starting to recognize specific nametags, to interact with real human beings (not a sentient blob of like-minded thoughts). It feels like being at a bonfire enjoying the moment with a couple of people, and I think that by itself has it’s own charm.

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      Thanks for your thoughts. I hope this continues to develop and becomes a stable and positive community. It will never be reddit. The sooner people realize this as a positive, the better.

      The first step to being a part of the community is participation. The smallest form of participation is a vote. With a tiny community, posting without social engagement lacks the positive feedback needed to be self sustainable. Getting past the point of critical mass where we are more than sustainable is absolutely critical right now. The best way to influence this, and lower the critical mass threshold is to encourage people to boost/bolster engagement, especially in niche areas of critical importance to those willing to post. Increasing the volume and categories encourages more specialization and adoption.

      So the most important aspect right now is simply getting people to upvote, and as many as possible to post

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      This moment is beautiful. People are understandably looking forward and hoping that they can recreate all of their niche communities. But I’m just enjoying this moment in time where we have a group of people figuring everything out together and trying to build something better than what we had. Even if Lemmy does get hugely successful, it’ll never again feel like it does at this moment, when all of the users care so much about being positive contributors.

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        Yep, that’s exactly how I feel too and you said it beautifully! I’ve been through this with a handful of platforms at this point and somehow it never feels any less bittersweet, :').

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        I will ask, is this how being part of a forum back in the day felt? Because that’s the “feeling” I have right now.

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          Yes. It’s like a BBS forum right now. It’s the feeling of seeing usernames as human beings, instead of anonymous trolls. Feels good man.

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      I kinda like it. Reddit can feel disconnected, comment and move on kind of thing. I’m curious where this is in say a year. I will miss my smaller intimate communities, but this is one general intimate community so it works.

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        This feels like when you find a really good smaller streamer and can actually talk to people in the chat and make good friends with some and become part of a cool community where every voice is heard… before the streamer hits it big and the chat scroll is so fast you can’t even see your message among the omega luls and kappas and pogchamps and kkonas and the streamer can’t possibly respond to anything because there’s just too much garbage

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        The current growth rate over the last few hours, just on this server instance has been around 275 users per hour. If that was completely sustainable, in one year, there would be over 2.4 million users on this instance.

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    Thanks for the encouragement and normalization words. I’m maybe the lurkiest lurker ever, but I absolutely can and do upvote!

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      I have noticed that sorting by new is pretty much required here if you want to see something, eh, new.

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        Sad but true.

        I think the basic functionality is working great, but it needs a critical mass of people. Next few weeks and the June 30 shutdown will make or break.

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            That’s when most of the 3rd party apps are shutting down, same as the start of big new API fees.

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            The major apps have announced to shut down on June 30th.

            It’s expected that there’ll be a major influx of former app users - if they haven’t left reddit already

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          I think the apps are also an important factor, lots of people are having issues using jerboa and lemur rn, but I feel support might get better soon

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        I tried that but sorting by new is almost unusable. After a few seconds it starts loading new posts at the top and then everything moves, and keeps moving. You can’t read something if it doesn’t stand still.

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          lemmy.world users have subbed too many places! Guess it’s a “good” problem and something that can be fixed.

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      I think if you credit the original poster, it’s a great idea to grab some of the bestof Reddit posts. There is a lot of really incredible content that could disappear. Combined with Imgur removing a lot of anonymous content from the past decade, sadly it seems like there could be a lot of valuable information that gets lost.

      Also, this is my first comment after being on Reddit for 15 years! Where did the time go… I’m glad Reddit didn’t track our hours.

      Hi, Lemmy!

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      Over 80% of them are reposts anyway, so take solace in that. Regardless, why not curate some content in one corner, it’ll help us all out in the long run.

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        I saw a bunch of that yesterday, like if you click through to Reddit you’re still boosting Reddit 😂

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          Right. If we had a way to view the content without accessing the website I’d support it but I won’t be opening any reddit links starting tomorrow. Screenshot and credit?

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        Exactly. Repost some content from reddit (or from somewhere else) that you liked the most and skip the boring/non interesting/spam etc.

        In my opinion, a ripoff post is better than no posts…

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    Keep in mind that this being a much smaller site your voice and opinion does have an impact. Your posts and votes will influence the culture of this site. Put in the effort to shape it into how you’d like it to be.

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    What’s difficult is finding this website in the first place, most people don’t understand terms like instances and all the server details, it would have been fine to just share this main link and tell people to recreate communities

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      There is a bit of a learning curve, but it is not terrible. Based on the growth numbers so far over the last few days a small competence filter may be a good thing IMO. Maybe it will be too much for the most negative potential users to overcome.

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        I know I should read about all this more, but I’m just gonna jump right in and figure out how to comment and post on my own. I still have no idea what an instance is, but atleast I’ve found communities and I even posted a few comments so I seem to be doing just fine lol

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        That’s fair, we don’t want to put too much on the website and bring it down. So far the only frustrating this is that to post on other existing communities I need to make an entirely new account for that website?

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          Nah, just search for most of them. If you can’t subscribe initially, I think it means you need to make a post on on the sub.

          Try not using apps. This is not trying to data mine you, so it works better in a browser. Your instance is like your app. Log into your instance (Lemmy.world), use the hamburger menu to find the magnifying glass to search. Be mindful of the context of the search. Local is searching only in .world. All searches all federated instances. Think of this like what it is; notice the version number is 0.17… This is a beta version and the developers are working on it as they can and as this grows. Donations help, but I’m sure they have real jobs just like almost everyone else here. Everyone involved is a volunteer. Like I think Ruud is hosting .world out of his own pocket, and the entire development budget is like $500 per month for Lemmy’s 2 primary contributing devs. There are going to be bugs and issues that take some time to resolve.

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          Not really, you may subscribe, read and comment on remote communities.

          (Just like this message I am posting from my feddit.de instance)

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        This was exactly why I decided to jump in and learn. I know why I dislike most platforms and I can see the potential for something much better, here.

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          Already it reminds me of the early days of reddit, before memebarf, trolls, and shitposters took over. I know it’s inevitable that it’ll end up here too, but the reprieve is nice.

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            So far, yes! Much of this takes me waaaaaay back to the early screechy interweb days. Maybe the nostalgia has me in its grip, I dunno. :D

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      We’ll get there, I suspect. The learning curve is good, because it provides a hurdle for trolls and bots and boomer shitposters, which means those of us wanting to actually put some thought in can get a head start before the black hats catch on.

      In addition om to what OP said, we should give a thought to how we will handle bots when they inevitably start showing up.

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    Well said! Im gonna try doing my part to make this place better one comment and upvote at a time.

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    I’ve always been a lurker on that other website, but I’m here to participate. So happy to be apart of the new Lemmy journey!

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    I belonged, until recently, in a really lovely private community over on that other place, and … I’m loving what I’m seeing so far. It’s a nice take, and feels a lot more like what I wanted out of those other places.

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    If you want me to make this “my new Reddit”, then I’m going to treat it like Reddit.

    That means down voting the majority of the posts I see.

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      Why the majority? Why bother? So much effort, so many clicks, for what?

      I only downvote stuff I actually dislike, or disagree with.