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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

How do you seriously fight fascism and don't say just vote?

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How do you seriously fight fascism and don't say just vote?

return2ozma@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 4 months ago
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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    The problem with violence is that the bad guys are usually better at violence.

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      4 months ago

      I wouldn’t say better at violence, just better equipped.

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        I wouldn’t say better at violence, just better equipped funded.

        FTFY.

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      Not true. Japan was definitely the Bad Guys. US was able to commit more violence then they were.

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        Woo hoo…? I guess!

      • Loss@sh.itjust.works
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        The US wasn’t the good guys against Japan. They just were slightly less bad for about 5 years before and 6 months after.

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          So you don’t know your history.

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            Or they know that there weren’t any “Good guys” around.

            The Japanese war crimes are well known in the West. The US ones are routinely glossed over or ignored.

            Wars don’t determine who was right. They determine who’s left.

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              There are no evidence of US war crimes even coming close to Japan, Germany or Russia at the time or superceding it. Where are the tens of millions of bodies, rammer? Where are they?

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                You’re joking, right? Nazi Germany wishes they could commit genocide in the scale of the early US.

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                  True, but that was long ago. If you’re gonna play that game we need to delete every single country except for like a few.

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                    Not really, most other countries revolted and enshrined human rights,and even started to try reparations for their crimes. The US doubled down by medically experimenting on the black population after WWII.

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                The 105000 in Tokyo not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo The 25000 in Dresden not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden The 246000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Post war casualties? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

                But those civilian casualties aren’t in the millions unless you count the post war casualties. That makes the US a “Good guy”. Right?

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                  The good guy in a war is the guy who is better than the bad guy. That’s usually it.

                  Keep in mind, at least in Germany the only people “remembering” the Dresden bombing are Nazis. They seek something that relativizes their crimes - and other nation’s war crimes against them that pale in comparison are the way to go. I presume Japanese fascists are similar in that regard.

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        Sure but to Japanese Americans where the bad guys. Which is why the real world is more complicated then a movie but everyone wants to make it black and white.

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