Veteran journalists Nicholas Gage, 84, and Nicholas Basbanes, 81, who live near each other in the same Massachusetts town, each devoted decades to reporting, writing and book authorship.

Gage poured his tragic family story and search for the truth about his mother’s death into a bestselling memoir that led John Malkovich to play him in the 1985 film “Eleni.” Basbanes transitioned his skills as a daily newspaper reporter into writing widely-read books about literary culture.

Basbanes was the first of the duo to try fiddling with AI chatbots, finding them impressive but prone to falsehoods and lack of attribution. The friends commiserated and filed their lawsuit earlier this year, seeking to represent a class of writers whose copyrighted work they allege “has been systematically pilfered by” OpenAI and its business partner Microsoft.

“It’s highway robbery,” Gage said in an interview in his office next to the 18th-century farmhouse where he lives in central Massachusetts.

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      As someone who uses AI all the time to write fiction just for my own entertainment, AI in no way replaces actual authors because while it might be technically capable, it’s garbage at big picture stuff. No theme or plot or foreshadowing that spans more than a handful of pages.

      AI cannot do the craft of writing no matter how good it is at prose.

      Not that there aren’t valid concerns and all, but I think this is a fading fad.

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        My problem is less “someone might make a thing that arts better than real artists”

        It’s more “someone is absolutely committed to making that thing using the labor of the artists they intend to marginalize and not only is nobody is stopping them, tons are cheering”

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      LLMs are the first thing in the space to get “good enough” to cause this. But they won’t be the last. Artists of all kinds across all media will be equally disheartened.

      AI (as it has been presented – not sentient, but these algorithmic approaches to generating content from existing patterns) is a great example of (some) STEM folks not understanding the social consequences of something before opening Pandora’s Box. It’s also a new way to steal.

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      I’m a writer. My partner is an artist. Almost all of our friends are writers or artists, or both. The meteoric rise of AI off the theft of hard work has been so soul crushing for us, and the worst part is how few people seem to care.

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        My ‘favorite’ is the argument that replacing jobs is what technology is meant to do.

        This isn’t just a job. If I won the lotto tomorrow, if I had billions and billions of dollars and never had to make another cent in my life, I would still be writing. Art is not just a production, it is a form of communication, between artist and audience, even if you never see them.

        Writing has always been something like tossing a message in a bottle into a sea of bottles and hoping someone reads it. Even if the arguments that AI can never replace human writing in terms of quality is true, we’re still drowned out by the noise of it.

        It really revs up the ol’ doomer instinct in me.

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          The noise is a big problem for all of us, not just artists. The entire internet is getting flooded with just awful content.

          As I see it, the problem is the little piecemeal work that artists do to get by is going to disappear. AI can write clickbait stories and such because really once someone clicks it the quality of the article barely matters. I’m going to guess that isn’t the writing you have a passion for, but it might be the writing you or others do to put food on the table between writing your passion projects.

          That’s a completely legitimate concern to see that work going away. As much as I fucking hate that stuff, I’d rather a writer get paid to exercise their craft than to have it written by an AI. I don’t have a good answer for that. Those jobs might legitimately go away. They are low effort, short pieces of bullshit like AI excels at. As a programmer, many of the easy parts of my work are also disappearing leaving only the hard stuff.

          I don’t know. I don’t want AI to go away. It’s a useful tool for certain things, but it really complicates the journey from novice to master in several fields. I do know it won’t be able to meet the high hopes some folks have. Anyway, I’m trying to be upbeat without being dismissive of your concerns because they are completely valid. I wish you the best.

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          Art is not just a production, it is a form of communication, between artist and audience, even if you never see them.

          Not just that: art is a way of enriching how we experience our being in the world, for both artist and audience. It expresses aspects of lived experience that are not obvious but run deep in making us what we are, and it helps us realize ways of understanding life that we cannot otherwise access. It’s communication not just between artist and audience but also between ourselves and our world. If we lump it all under the ugly category of “content” and hand its production over to machines, artists can no longer survive while practising their art, human insight suffers, and we are all impoverished.

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    And the race to be the first law firm to win against AI continues. The law firms have run out of B-list celebrities to feed fears to, and now we’ve moved onto octogenarian authors. Surely, next up will be a class action suit by 6th graders complaining that Chat-GPT stole their “What I did over summer vacation” reports without citing references.