It’s sensible for businesses to shift from physical media sales. Per CNBC’s calculations, DVD sales fell over 86 percent between 2008 and 2019. Research from the Motion Picture Association in 2021 found that physical media represented 8 percent of the home/mobile entertainment market in the US, falling behind digital (80 percent) and theatrical (12 percent).

But as physical media gets less lucrative and the shuttering of businesses makes optical discs harder to find, the streaming services that largely replaced them are getting aggravating and unreliable. And with the streaming industry becoming more competitive and profit-hungry than ever, you never know if the movie/show that most attracted you to a streaming service will still be available when you finally get a chance to sit down and watch. Even paid-for online libraries that were marketed as available “forever” have been ripped away from customers.

When someone buys or rents a DVD, they know exactly what content they’re paying for and for how long they’ll have it (assuming they take care of the physical media). They can also watch the content if the Internet goes out and be certain that they’re getting uncompressed 4K resolution. DVD viewers are also less likely to be bombarded with ads whenever they pause and can get around an ad-riddled smart TV home screen (nothing’s perfect; some DVDs have unskippable commercials).

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    It’s sensible for businesses to shift from physical media sales.

    Sensible to who?

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      For all the reality of “streaming rights are a shitshow”, what percentage of the population do you think is willing to buy physical movies?

      Because I don’t think it’s all that high.

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        Someone go make Steam for videos and I’ll pay for media again. My stipulations are:

        • Once I buy it, it’s mine forever (otherwise piracy is better)
        • The file is high quality, DRM free, and in a selection of standard formats (otherwise piracy is better)
        • I can redownload it from the service at any time (otherwise piracy is better)
        • I can get everything I want to watch (otherwise piracy is better)
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          Companies see that as a mistake. They want you on a subscription for life that they can arbitrarily change at any time.

          Profits not increasing enough for this quarter? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads.

          Profits increased amazingly this quarter? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads.

          Profits down? Better cut content, increase prices, increase the number of ads, and start adding extra paywalls to some content

          They want you to own nothing. Oh you unsubscribed? Sorry even the content you paid extra to unlock was only available while your subscription continued, you will need to start your subscription again and then pay to unlock the content again.

          A show isn’t popular enough? Better write it off, pull it from all distribution so you can claim it as a tax write off

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            I wouldn’t even mind the subscription if all the content was there reliably, and I only needed one.

            I subscribe to a music service, because all the music is there and it’s easier than swiping it.

            If I had to subscribe to four different ones to get access to all the artists I listen to, then I’d still be pirating that.

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          I honestly don’t mind copy protections, I just don’t like online DRM. If the service is good enough, I’ll look past that particular portion.

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              Not necessarily. DVDs and Blurays have copy protections, but they don’t require access to any servers. Online DRM sucks because if your internet goes out, their servers are having troubles, or they just shut down the servers for whatever reason, you cannot use your media.

              So I’m mostly fine with offline copy protections (someone will crack it eventually), I’m not okay with DRM that requires online access.

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        Yes, the costs to actually make and distribute a physical disc are relatively low on a unit basis, but the cost of distributing a digital copy online make physical media look astronomical.

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          Even outside of cost, the level of control they can exert is vastly higher than any physical media.

          Being able to prevent someone from reselling the movie or game they bought is very appealing to rights holders.

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      Physical is practically dead.

      One by one I’ve seen pretty much any shop that specialises in physical media go bust. Virgin Megastores, HMV, Blockbuster, Game. The media section in my local supermarkets have gone from several aisles of games and movies, down to a single rack of recent releases. Even in gaming, I’ve had my disc PS5 for two years now, and the only thing I’ve put in it was Top Gun on 4K disc. The other games (BG3, Talos Principle 2) I purchased weren’t even available on disc.

      Consumers don’t want it in large numbers, so they stop making it.

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        Really? Because used media stores are booming all over the place. Stores that sell new and used records alongside CDs, Movies, and video games seem to be in every mid size town I pass through.

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          The smaller towns like mine feel the effects first. It’ll trickle up.

          Game went that way, eventually being taken over by the used section, and now all we have left locally is CEX, which is used only. Most of the prices are about the same as buying new from Amazon. Anything really cheap is often the same stuff in subscription services.

          Game still exists, but it’s tucked away at the back of Sports Direct shops in out of town shopping centres, and their main products appear to be plushies and funko pops.

          It is dying, and I’m not convinced it can be saved at this point. Who has a CD player any more? DVD players have gone from a £30 box that everyone had to something stuffed in the attic and the apps are built into the TV. A 4K BR player is still £150+ even for a cheap one. You don’t even get Dolby Vision at that price point. I don’t expect the next generation of consoles to have disc drives at all.

          Physical media is on life support, and it won’t be long before they pull the plug completely.

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            When I think small town, I’m thinking a couple hundred people. I’ve never seen such stores there. Medium is a few thousand. They usually have one.

            The nice thing is that there are millions of discs and players still out there. For anyone who prefers physical media and avoids streaming (this guy!) there is no shortage. Prices could stand to come down. But even if they do quit making them, there are lifetimes worth of vintage media, and newer isn’t always better.

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              I’m talking a town of 35,000-40,000 people. There is not a single dedicated new physical media shop here. The most we have is the rack in the supermarkets. It all went online to Amazon, etc, and now it doesn’t look like it has long there either.

              And while that old media will last a decent while, it doesn’t last forever. The discs degrade, and fairly soon compared to CDs. Like 25 years or so.

              And if nobody is making discs any more, the drives won’t be far behind. It’s full of moving parts, so stock up on them. It happened to floppy discs, it’ll happen to optical discs too.

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                I didn’t say new store, I said vintage. If you don’t have one, I’d be surprised. There’s gonna be one somewheres nearby.

                As for aging media, you’re right about that. Best make sure we reform copyright law soon. They don’t deserve to gatekeep the entire world’s cultural history.

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        I’ve had my disc PS5 for two years now, and the only thing I’ve put in it was Top Gun on 4K disc

        You are really missing out then, because if you know where to look (like psprices.com) you will often find sales on only physical copies at Amazon, Best Buy or GameStop.

        I’m talking like significant sales. Like AAA games less than a year old (that still costs $60 on PSN) for $15.99 kind of sales.

        I cannot tell you how many PS4 and PS5 games I’ve gotten, and which, for 40%+ off. Too many to count. I’ve saved hundreds if not over a thousand dollars doing this.