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    I think the craziest thing is, that the survey starts at 50$. They just assume that must be the minimum prize everyone is ok with.

    Lunatics…

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        Man, things are a LOT worse in the US than the media makes you believe if the median income is $2600 a year.

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          Found the American. Your US is a rich small country by population, so US income sizes have virtually zero impact on the world-wide median.

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            I’m Swedish… A rich small country.

            I didn’t realize you were talking global median income, since it was not defined.

            I don’t know how great of a barometer for economics a luxury goods/service like a AAA video game is, though.

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    Rant

    I’ve always been of the “vote with your dollar” or “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it” mentality until recently. Now it seems like the heavy concentration of market power into a few companies is spurring on the continued development of “pricing innovations”.

    Remember when they said digital distribution would make the games cheaper and they would pass the savings down to us? (surprise that was a lie). That’s just the cost of innovation.

    Diablo 4 isn’t a “bad game” but for games as a service that contains microtransactions, it certainly isn’t a game worth a $100 expansion pack. They didn’t even include the game with the collectors edition. Sell the collectibles without the game for a premium! Get paid twice! Innovation!

    As more and more disappointments land face first on the concrete floor of the empty swimming pool surrounded by apathetic"entitled " gamers they still will not learn from their mistakes because the money says otherwise. They would rather go out of business then sell you a product you actually want to buy. That’s the cost of innovation.

    I don’t know if this is the right place to say this. I urge everyone to collect physical copies of games, back them up, share them and archive them. We’re never getting back what we’ve lost no matter how much we’re willing to pay for it.

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      Relative to the cost of everything else / inflation, games actually were pretty cheap. They had been $50/60 for nearly 30 years. Now we’re in the shitty time where it’s $70 for the base game, $30 for day 1 dlc, battlepasses, micro (really macro) transactions, etc.

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        Yes that is true.

        Games were cheap for a long time. It was a competitive market. When the N64 came out, game cartridges were 80$ in the US (depending on the title). Neo Geo games were $200 a cartridge new before that. The prices resembled a (arguably) higher quality item.

        The Sony PlayStation had games typically around the $30 to $40 dollar price point and that enabled Sony to sell endless copies of Blasto and other (arguably shovelware) games at the time. This loss leader strategy Sony had destabilized a lot of the market. Systems makers had to lower the price of games to increase the install base and they constantly lost money (sega Saturn games used to sell as low as 10$ new in 1997).

        $70, $80, even $120 Dollars for a triple A title like Elden Ring or Super Mario Galaxy wouldn’t be that crazy to me depending on the state of that market. Some people are buying OG PlayStation games like MegaMan Legends in excess of $200. In the end though, you have the game. It is your copy.

        The wake up call for me was when Microsoft has to be shamed into walking back their weird anti consumer Xbox game cd key sharing policy because Sony made this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

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    After reading a story about bg3 patch 5 adding an epilogue set 6 months after the games end with over 3500 new lines of dialogue, new cutscenes which is based on the thousands of decisions you made in your playthrough and different for everyone and its just a patch and its free. This makes me so mad that blizzard have become this shit hole of a company.

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      that was probably going to be in the base game but they released it without itanyway. wish obsidian did that for new vegas instead of a stupid slideshow 😂

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        Maybe it was but you know if it was any other comapny rhry would have charged for it and it woild be broken still.

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    I’ll play D4 if and when it’s free. Otherwise I’m not interested.

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      That would probably make me less likely to play it, because then there’d be even more MTX crap. I’m just not interested at any price.

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        Sure, but it won’t cost me anything to try at that point, and if it sucks, so be it.

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          I guess.

          But those types of games tend to be manipulative and giant wastes of time. I pretty much just avoid F2P games as a general rule, because if they don’t think their game is worth charging money for, neither do I. The likelihood that a F2P game is worth my time is very low, so I don’t bother playing them.

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    Diablo 4 isn’t that good of a game and not even close to the best arpg. I admittedly got hosed on buying it at launch and am not giving them more money. Why would I spend over 150$ total to get the equivalent of 1 mediocre game assuming they fix all the bs. Definitely regret the purchase at this point, and if a fixed version is going to be locked behind absurdly priced dlc in the future I feel like I got scammed twice.

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    I am okay with $5000 DLC because i don’t play this bitch-ass game.

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    Hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha… Fuckin idiots.

    I swear they’re spiking the water with acid down in silicon valley, how can so many companies be making so many dumbass decisions all at the same time?

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      how can so many companies be making so many dumbass decisions all at the same time?

      People keep purchasing the product. Diablo Immortal told us what Diablo 4 would be, they still had significant launch day sales.

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      I don’t think that Blizzard is in Silicon Valley.

      googles

      Yeah.

      They’ve got a location in Southern California – not Northern California, where Silicon Valley is – and another in Boston, Massachusetts, and something in Austin, Texas.

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    I won’t even buy the shitty $70 game because the beta was fucking terrible.

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    anyone who didn’t uninstall battlenet after the Blitzchung nonsense gets the DLC they fucking deserve

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    What?

    First of all, after the shitshow that was the launch of D4, that’s just hilarious. S2 is certainly better than the start, but it is no holy grail that magically fixed everything.

    Secondly, you’re dreaming if you think a DLC is worth more than the base game.

    And finally, I like how they’re “asking” players if they’d “be okay” with it. Are you telling me that if the majority of the player base said “NO!” they’d actually listen? If there is anyone who believes that, well I’ve got a bridge in Sanctuary to sell you.

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      Depending on how extreme the NO! answers are, they may delay it or split the 100$ DLC in 2 50$ DLC, which you both have to get to actually play the game.

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    Who is playing Diablo 4? Especially this year.

    I mean, I checked it out at launch, thought it was fine, didn’t even finish the main campaign, moved on to the other million great games that came out the past few months. Is this game still relevant?