SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 2 年前Justifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?message-squaremessage-square124fedilinkarrow-up146arrow-down13
arrow-up143arrow-down1message-squareJustifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 2 年前message-square124fedilink
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 年前design implies a designer.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 年前design takes volition.
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 年前That’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 年前do they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 年前I don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following: “Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.” Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 年前yes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 年前How would you phrase it? (Honest question)
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 年前“spiders have evolved to produce webs. evolutionary pressures have favored species which produce webs that are safe for the organism and effective at trapping enough prey to maintain the life and reproductive cycles of the organism.”
design implies a designer.
The mother designs it.
design takes volition.
That’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
do they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
I don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following:
“Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.”
Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
yes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
How would you phrase it? (Honest question)
“spiders have evolved to produce webs. evolutionary pressures have favored species which produce webs that are safe for the organism and effective at trapping enough prey to maintain the life and reproductive cycles of the organism.”