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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@beehaw.orgEnglish · 1 year ago

Commentary: We face a world potentially running out of antibiotics

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Commentary: We face a world potentially running out of antibiotics

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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@beehaw.orgEnglish · 1 year ago
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Almost all infectious diseases physicians have had the dreaded call about patients with infections that were essentially untreatable because of antimicrobial resistance, says a Monash University professor.
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    Please don’t tell me you’re gonna bring up the stupid soy fields in the rain forest argument :'D

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      being vegan doesn’t stop soy from being grown in rainforests

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        exactly, because almost 100% of that soy is for meat production

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          85% of global soy is pressed for oil. the vast majority of the soy that’s fed to animals is the industrial waste from that process.

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            Wheree do you get your numbers from?

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254608/soy-production-end-uses-worldwide/

            They seem off my guy.

            Weird to not provide real numbers for someone calling me a liar

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              https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

              i can’t click your paywalled link

              here’s what the UN’s FAO says

              oil is 17.2%. since a soybean is only about 20% oil to begin with, you need to crush 85% of all soybeans to get that much oil. do you see how the vast majority of what is fed to animals is called “soy meal” or “soy cake”? that’s the industrial waste from processing soybeans to oil.

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                Its statista, they limit traffic. Try a different browser.

                Btw funny you link OWID, you should read their article. It doesn’t mention the feed as a side product of oil production, and I’m having trouble finding your quote.

                Even if its 100% true and just not mentioned in any articles on the matter, then I guess large scale veganism still only removes loads of industrial processes/co2 production, unspeakable animal abuse and insane amounts - and i mean ludicrous amounts - of wasted drinking water.

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                  Try a different browser.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUjeR01wnU

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                  I guess large scale veganism still only removes loads of industrial processes/co2 production, unspeakable animal abuse and insane amounts - and i mean ludicrous amounts - of wasted drinking water.

                  that has never happened.

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                    Exactly. Thats the problem.

                    Global consumption and production are increasing

                    Do. You. Follow?

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      environmental destruction continues whether you are vegan or not.

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        also what part of my comment prompted you to post that random response?

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        yep due to the meat industry keeping going regardless of a fairly small demographic quitting their products

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          so maybe you should stop lying to people about being vegan helping the planet.

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            It does, if enough people did it.

            You’re so angry lol

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              what makes you think you can tell anything about my emotional state?

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                Cuz youre lying about a very emotionally charged topic and calling me a liar. If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

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                  youre lying

                  everything i’ve said is true. you are the one who seems to want to bend reality to match your beliefs.

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                    everything i’ve said is true

                    It aint. Literally. U pulled 85% out of your ass. Try 4% (industrial use) 77% livestock feed.

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                  If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

                  i’ve provided exactly as much data as you have.

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                    Check again bro https://feddit.de/comment/4912410

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              It does, if enough people did it.

              do you have a plan to make that happen? how many people is enough?

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                Are u moving goal posts to feel like you’re winning something or genuinely expect the comment section in an online forum to solve societal issues?

                Less meat produced = better.

                How much more better things could be a different wat is irrelevant; using that as an excuse to never do anything is actually damaging.

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                  Less meat produced = better.

                  that hasn’t happened

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                    Yeah, what does that have to do with veganism? Tiny niche doesnt stop global trend. Who knew?

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