This doesn’t appear to be anything official, right? not certain how much a coalition publicly agreeing to this translates to actual funding for Ukraine. Would also be nice to see how this funding stacks vs the US, and vs other EU country contributions.
It’s officially agreed upon by all coalition members, but the finalizing of 2024’s budget where they officially introduce that change is only scheduled for next week.
Also just the original 4 billion € for next year is more than all other countries with the exception of US and UK have spend this whole war…
That’s just military aid though. In all, the EU has almost spent €85 billion to support Ukrainians.
For comparison, Russia is expected to have tripled their national military budget by 80 to €120 billion per year, or an increase of around 4% GDP. If the EU spends €60 billion /year on aid, that would mean around 0,4% of their GDP.
Aka Russia has a GDP comparable to Italy
Bad ass for Germany and Ukraine. hope things go well.thanks for the context
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If approved by parliament, where Scholz’s parties hold a majority, the boost would lift Germany’s defence spending to 2.1% of its gross domestic product target, beyond the 2% pledged by all North Atlantic Treaty Organization members, the source added.
Lawmakers from Scholz’s Social Democrats, the Free Democrats and the Green party agreed on the increase in negotiations over the proposed 2024 federal budget ahead of a formal meeting of the budget committee of the Bundestag - or lower house of parliament - on Thursday, Nov. 16, the source said.
A spokesperson for Germany’s Ministry of Defence said the Bundestag committee has not finished negotiations and declined to comment further.
Defence minister Boris Pistorius, interviewed by broadcaster ARD, referred to the planned doubling of military aid to Ukraine.
“It is a strong signal to Ukraine that we will not leave them in the lurch,” he said, adding the move, if agreed, would mean the annual budget allocation would be enough to last the whole year.
Germany’s Bild am Sonntag newspaper had also said the committee is due to approve the additional 4 billion euros.
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ITT: plenty of vatniks sowing doubt with further supporting Ukraine.
I do wish there was some honest reporting from at least one of the sides though.
Trolls and vatniks have been telling to the people it’s “getting cold” since last year to dissuade more support for Ukraine. Well, a lot more will lose than just heating for homes by tolerating Putin.
yuppie
Double it and give it to the next person.
EDIT: It was a joke about the famous stupid YouTube videos… Not saying they shouldn’t give it to Ukraïne…
Next person?
Ignore the other reply. I was just making a stupid joke with the title about doubling it.
As that is the famous phrase from dumb YouTube videos were they donate money to people (if is even real) or after doing something and they offer then to keep it or double it and give it to the next person.
The US is treating the EU like a doner kebab to feed Ukraine
Germany is on a steady decline, decisions like this increase the pace.
Why?
Because nobody needs to support their partners! The only thing that counts is OUR country and OUR freedom !!!
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The only thing that counts is OUR country and OUR freedom !!!
This position is natural, I wouldn’t criticize people for that. What people fail to understand is that “OUR” country and “THEIR” country exist on the same globe. “OUR” country will feel consequences too if Russia doesn’t lose.
“OUR” country will feel consequences too if Russian doesn’t lose
Thats the point. Beimg nationalist is not completly wrong, because you still live in your country.
But I a country just looks for itself, it doesnt blend out all the other countries and the problem they have. Our world is interconnected like in no time before, wd cant just shut our eyes and try to be happy.
And as germany is the biggest economy in Europe, we should be more supportive than economically smaller countries
Ah yes, supporting partners the way US supported Germany by blowing up their gas pipeline.
Was it the US? I though it was zelensky…
Does anybody actually buy that story?
Elaborate please
Germany is now running deficits to support a war that’s already been decided. Ukraine is a corrupt country where many weapons given to it find their way onto the international black market. The standard of living in Germany is getting worse. Using deficit spending on a non-productive good like weapons to a foreign country that is corrupt will accelerate Germany’s decline.
So you think its better to dont support our partners, and let autocrats take what they want, bc we have bad money management?
The standard of living is declining everywhere on the world. Germany is still havimg it really good. We are just nagging, but we have really much. in my opinion we have to help other countries which have it bad.
If you’re going to stop Russia from invading Ukraine why aren’t you putting German troops in Ukraine? You’re not helping your partner your killing Ukranians to weaken America’s enemy. Tell me what the difference between Israel and Russia is and what they’re doing to their smaller neighbours is. And then tell me why Germany condemns one atrocity but supports the other. It’s not about supporting a partner and I think you’re being naive or disingeneous if you think so.
We dont send troops, because it would be an intervemtion of foreign forces, in this situation its NATO forces. I think the rest needs no explanation.
Germany condemns Israels human rights violation PUBLICLY from ministers to chancellors nobody says its good.
And we send support to palestine too so I dont know what you are talking.
Germany doesnt give Israel tanks and weapons. Please enlighten my naiveness and tell me how germany supports one and not the other…
