I’ve seen stuff pulled from the steam store so it’s no longer available for purchase/adding to my library, but the ones I already added, even undownloaded, have always still been available in my library, even if the game was fully defunct.
That’s a substantially different situation, I don’t see how you can reasonably equate Sony removing game data from people’s console post-purchase due to them no longer maintaining any servers to play on with Valve not letting you keep a game that was not properly paid for in the first place.
What facts? You’re comparing Sony manually removing game data from accounts that had legitimate ownership of it with Steam automatically reversing the registration of a game you didn’t pay for. I’m sure you’ve done some serious mental gymnastics to justify whatever grudge you hold over the situation, but it’s entirely apples to oranges.
I didn’t expect the payment to fail and I definitely didnt expect the games I started playing to be deleted from my harddrive. Are you trying to say you wouldn’t be surprised if something you didn’t know could happen until I informed you, happened?
I wouldn’t expect the payment to fail, but I wouldn’t be surprised either if I couldn’t keep games that I didn’t pay for. And I wouldn’t compare either this to sony removing games you paid for (without the payment being rejected).
Holy shit are you obtuse. No. Steam can revoke your licenses if you don’t pay for them. And that is a completely different thing than revoking your license after you paid for them without a refund. One of them is taking from you stuff that you didn’t pay for in the first place. The other one is taking from you stuff that you paid for. Do you understand the difference between paying for something and not paying for something?
Yep, GOG doesn’t have the ability but Valve absolutely does. When my payment for a humble bundle failed (so, added to library and installed before the payment was resolved) Steam removed the games from my library AND drive
Agreed. It probably has to do with the third party (humble bundle) validation process. This functionality however is in the Steam subscriber agreement, along with “any reason we see fit”
Some steam games don’t have DRM… even Steam’s. Steam just hosts the files. I think Stalker(the old games) is onesuch example. The games just launch whether steam is up or not.
https://www.thegamer.com/playstation-deleting-concord-consoles/
I’m guessing the commenter is talking about GOG and/or “legitimate” piracy on PC.
(Legitimate piracy meaning you own the game legally but you downloaded a pirated copy to avoid DRM)
Valve also does this btw
I’ve seen stuff pulled from the steam store so it’s no longer available for purchase/adding to my library, but the ones I already added, even undownloaded, have always still been available in my library, even if the game was fully defunct.
I’ve had my downloaded purchases from a humble bundle deleted from my PC after a couple days because the payment processor failed
That’s a substantially different situation, I don’t see how you can reasonably equate Sony removing game data from people’s console post-purchase due to them no longer maintaining any servers to play on with Valve not letting you keep a game that was not properly paid for in the first place.
I don’t see how a different situation has anything to do with it? You can make any judgement you like but the facts are the facts
What facts? You’re comparing Sony manually removing game data from accounts that had legitimate ownership of it with Steam automatically reversing the registration of a game you didn’t pay for. I’m sure you’ve done some serious mental gymnastics to justify whatever grudge you hold over the situation, but it’s entirely apples to oranges.
Those are the facts.
You’re the one holding the grudge lmao. I just told you it can happen
Yeah it happens if you’re scamming them and not paying, oh wow what a surprise
On Sony it happens if you legitimately pay for a thing you’re supposed to be able to keep in your library.
Kind of a different thing completely, but it seems you can’t tell the difference.
Exactly what did you expect to happen? Were you expecting to keep the games that you didn’t pay?
I didn’t expect the payment to fail and I definitely didnt expect the games I started playing to be deleted from my harddrive. Are you trying to say you wouldn’t be surprised if something you didn’t know could happen until I informed you, happened?
I wouldn’t expect the payment to fail, but I wouldn’t be surprised either if I couldn’t keep games that I didn’t pay for. And I wouldn’t compare either this to sony removing games you paid for (without the payment being rejected).
Yeah, if Sony retroactively returned the payment I wouldn’t be quite as bothered
You didn’t know steam can delete your games, now you do. You’re welcome
Holy shit are you obtuse. No. Steam can revoke your licenses if you don’t pay for them. And that is a completely different thing than revoking your license after you paid for them without a refund. One of them is taking from you stuff that you didn’t pay for in the first place. The other one is taking from you stuff that you paid for. Do you understand the difference between paying for something and not paying for something?
Got any sources for that? Only ever heard of them removing a game from sale, not removing it from someone who has already bought it.
Also GOG can’t even do this if they wanted to, they are unable to uninstall a game you have downloaded already.
Yep, GOG doesn’t have the ability but Valve absolutely does. When my payment for a humble bundle failed (so, added to library and installed before the payment was resolved) Steam removed the games from my library AND drive
Oh, removing stuff you didn’t pay for is pretty understandable tbh. Didn’t realise they even let you play stuff before the payment is made.
Agreed. It probably has to do with the third party (humble bundle) validation process. This functionality however is in the Steam subscriber agreement, along with “any reason we see fit”
Some steam games don’t have DRM… even Steam’s. Steam just hosts the files. I think Stalker(the old games) is onesuch example. The games just launch whether steam is up or not.
Sounds like a very convincing reason to never rent a Sony product again.