I always thought this comic was a criticism of tax deductions. In particular, the Lion’s Club, where rich people donate something like a park or to think tanks in order to get a tax deduction and have people look up to them for essentially doing nothing.
Edit: extra clarification just in case: I’m talking about parks build by The Lion’s Club specifically.
They’re usually really shitty parks in terrible locations.
One I remember was a small park far away from any neighborhood you could only get to by driving that was nothing but a big circle surrounding a man made pond with ducks, a fountain that after it broke was never repaired, a single bench, a few trees, and mowed grass. Oh and a cement parking lot that was 1/3 the size of the park, of course.
The bench had a plaque saying the park was donated by the Lion’s Club.
Before that it was a forest by the side of the road, so it definitely lost biodiversity. It was usually empty because, well, you had to drive the and it was far from most places people lived.
i mean, i’ve built two parks, not with Lion’s club. First one was a huge community effort in the big park downtown (we have concerts there every friday in the summer, got to be the first band to play that stage which is all i asked for, and it’s the location of the weekly farmer’s market year round, i didn’t just donate but actually built that one myself with about half of the community. when it burned down 20 years ago the whole community came out and did it again), second not quite as big but it’s widely recognized as the best and safest park in the wider region. right in the middle of the three most populous neighborhoods in our city and walking distance from the best tamale mama in the county.
I’ve done this personally. I’ve been a community leader for 20 years before my disability forced me to retire. it’s why i see your arguments as a little disingenuous.
Again, talking about Lion’s Club parks. They don’t take into account the community. I’m not saying parks themselves are bad, I’m saying the stuff Lion’s Club does is just got tax deductions, not because it’s necessarily good for the community. Same with donating to Think Tanks that are set up as charities but promote something specific they want to promote.
The Lion’s Club btw doesn’t go and literally builds a park btw, they just pay people to do it. I’m not sure what you don’t get about this. It’s not an attack on you, or parks. It’s about the rich doing things for the sake of tax deductions but framing it as for the community when really it’s about them paying less taxes. Which is what the comic is about. Building a school by itself seems like a good act, right? But the school the Lions built isn’t actually useful, and just misguides the Gazelles into thinking it’s necessary for the Lion’s to eat them for their own good. Just like the park that was “donated” by the Lion’s Club I mentioned is not really being a useful park, nor a good park, because it’s far from where people live, not near any communities, and most of it is a shallow pond and parking lot.
I’m literally offering to do Dyslexia Type for you, and other possible solutions, because I’m legit starting to question if you have a condition that needs assistance.
I’m assuming good faith discussion for once here, though I’m severely starting to doubt you have good faith.
Btw, you responded to the wrong comment. And you still haven’t explained what feature you were talking about. I’m guessing because of the screenshot you mean parks still rather than tax deductions, but you need to clarify that.
how can i break this into the abstract for you? Your complaint is: Look at how this feature of the system is abused by this small group. My explanation is: Look at how this feature of the system benefits society, and is used by the system en large. your argument is disingenuous because you are presenting the small group as society en large.
The hell is that your takeaway? No offense but are you a little dense after your disability mate? Or maybe have Dyslexia? If so I can switch to Dyslexia Type for you so it’s easier to read.
What is the “feature” here you’re talking about? Tax deductions? Parks? You and your community didn’t build the damn parks for tax deductions - at least, at no point in your story do you mention you and others got a tax deduction from it. None of you paid someone to do it to then get a tax deduction. You said it was built literally by yourselves. Either way, this isn’t really about the damn dang parks anymore. Do you just skim over the other example I mentioned multiple times? Maybe need new reading glasses? It can be hard to notice when vision starts getting blurry nearby, I understand, so maybe you just actually missed it.
I’m also literally explaining what the comic is most likely about. Both with it featuring Lions and the title “Tax Deductions”, and how it’s not pro-libertarian.
The Lion’s Club is small but it also isn’t btw. It’s a global club.
I’m trying to accommodate for any disability you might have, assuming good faith argument, which is the opposite of ableist. Because the alternative at this point is that you are discussing in bad faith.
Now, if you could clarify, what “feature” are you even referring to?
I always thought this comic was a criticism of tax deductions. In particular, the Lion’s Club, where rich people donate something like a park or to think tanks in order to get a tax deduction and have people look up to them for essentially doing nothing.
you really think parks do nothing?
Read again mate.
They’re arguing against Doing Good for Tax Dodging, not DOING GOOD THINGS
Do you really think that is what they said? Maybe go back and check again.
Edit: For reference, this is what it looks like when a comment is edited after the fact.
what, the comments they edited after I explained shit? nah, that’s not how shit works fam
I edited my comment above. As you can see, a pencil appears next to the upvote/downvote ration and the “x hours ago” timer resets.
You are lying. Their comments were not edited after you replied.
not in the slightest, but i’m glad you felt inclined to call me out for disagreeing with me
Edit: extra clarification just in case: I’m talking about parks build by The Lion’s Club specifically.
They’re usually really shitty parks in terrible locations.
One I remember was a small park far away from any neighborhood you could only get to by driving that was nothing but a big circle surrounding a man made pond with ducks, a fountain that after it broke was never repaired, a single bench, a few trees, and mowed grass. Oh and a cement parking lot that was 1/3 the size of the park, of course.
The bench had a plaque saying the park was donated by the Lion’s Club.
Before that it was a forest by the side of the road, so it definitely lost biodiversity. It was usually empty because, well, you had to drive the and it was far from most places people lived.
i mean, i’ve built two parks, not with Lion’s club. First one was a huge community effort in the big park downtown (we have concerts there every friday in the summer, got to be the first band to play that stage which is all i asked for, and it’s the location of the weekly farmer’s market year round, i didn’t just donate but actually built that one myself with about half of the community. when it burned down 20 years ago the whole community came out and did it again), second not quite as big but it’s widely recognized as the best and safest park in the wider region. right in the middle of the three most populous neighborhoods in our city and walking distance from the best tamale mama in the county.
I’ve done this personally. I’ve been a community leader for 20 years before my disability forced me to retire. it’s why i see your arguments as a little disingenuous.
Again, talking about Lion’s Club parks. They don’t take into account the community. I’m not saying parks themselves are bad, I’m saying the stuff Lion’s Club does is just got tax deductions, not because it’s necessarily good for the community. Same with donating to Think Tanks that are set up as charities but promote something specific they want to promote.
The Lion’s Club btw doesn’t go and literally builds a park btw, they just pay people to do it. I’m not sure what you don’t get about this. It’s not an attack on you, or parks. It’s about the rich doing things for the sake of tax deductions but framing it as for the community when really it’s about them paying less taxes. Which is what the comic is about. Building a school by itself seems like a good act, right? But the school the Lions built isn’t actually useful, and just misguides the Gazelles into thinking it’s necessary for the Lion’s to eat them for their own good. Just like the park that was “donated” by the Lion’s Club I mentioned is not really being a useful park, nor a good park, because it’s far from where people live, not near any communities, and most of it is a shallow pond and parking lot.
so when you get angry you get ableist, huh? i’m not so stupid you can call me stupid to my face and then believe you when you try to handwave it away.
I’m literally offering to do Dyslexia Type for you, and other possible solutions, because I’m legit starting to question if you have a condition that needs assistance.
I’m assuming good faith discussion for once here, though I’m severely starting to doubt you have good faith.
Btw, you responded to the wrong comment. And you still haven’t explained what feature you were talking about. I’m guessing because of the screenshot you mean parks still rather than tax deductions, but you need to clarify that.
how can i break this into the abstract for you? Your complaint is: Look at how this feature of the system is abused by this small group. My explanation is: Look at how this feature of the system benefits society, and is used by the system en large. your argument is disingenuous because you are presenting the small group as society en large.
The hell is that your takeaway? No offense but are you a little dense after your disability mate? Or maybe have Dyslexia? If so I can switch to Dyslexia Type for you so it’s easier to read.
What is the “feature” here you’re talking about? Tax deductions? Parks? You and your community didn’t build the damn parks for tax deductions - at least, at no point in your story do you mention you and others got a tax deduction from it. None of you paid someone to do it to then get a tax deduction. You said it was built literally by yourselves. Either way, this isn’t really about the damn dang parks anymore. Do you just skim over the other example I mentioned multiple times? Maybe need new reading glasses? It can be hard to notice when vision starts getting blurry nearby, I understand, so maybe you just actually missed it.
I’m also literally explaining what the comic is most likely about. Both with it featuring Lions and the title “Tax Deductions”, and how it’s not pro-libertarian.
The Lion’s Club is small but it also isn’t btw. It’s a global club.
you, uh, should choose words better. “i’m angry so your disability must have made you stupid” is pretty ableist
I’m trying to accommodate for any disability you might have, assuming good faith argument, which is the opposite of ableist. Because the alternative at this point is that you are discussing in bad faith.
Now, if you could clarify, what “feature” are you even referring to?