cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516
It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.
For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.
Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.
Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26
I mean the downsides are it’s Linux. That’s not without it’s upsides but the downsides are huge.
Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don’t play nice? I 100% don’t know what the downsides would be.
From my research, the phone part of the “phone” doesn’t work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.
I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect…
It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.
We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone
Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!
That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…
Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.
Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.
Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.
I’m with you - I’d pay extra for a phone that doesn’t take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.
could you not just get a data-only SIM?
Just delete all your phone apps and then you won’t get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.
I’m on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯
Goes both ways, I’d be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.
“What a shame, better write an e-mail.”
No one was arguing the other way…
Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.
Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.
It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.
I guess if you’re not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone’s experiences should mirror yours exactly.
You still did not answer my question. Pinephone has those issues with all Linux OSes, so do ports for many phones. Officially supported phones do not to my knowledge.
You asked 1 question, which I very clearly did answer. I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.
It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.
It also isn’t as performant for the price, or so I’ve heard. They’re working on it, but it isn’t up to par with big name companies.
What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven’t come across anything my phone couldn’t run in over a decade. I haven’t had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?
Like Android you mean?
What about it?
Android is technically doing just fine.
I don’t understand what that’s supposed to mean.
That it doesn’t have huge downsides.
Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won’t even be able to sideload software anymore without Google’s permission.
You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don’t have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is.
SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.
Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.
I don’t see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.
This article is about Fairphone with /e/OS, not some other OEM with a proprietary Android variant.
Then you are off-topic as well.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS. AOSP alone has very little “userland” still actively maintained.
No. Pelespirit asked about Jolla which is mentioned in the
articleposts’s text body. I gave context for Jolla’s Android compatibility. It’s 100% on topic.And: “The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.”
I think I bought one, but I’m not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.
On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.
There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.