cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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    Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don’t play nice? I 100% don’t know what the downsides would be.

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      From my research, the phone part of the “phone” doesn’t work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

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        I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect…

        It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

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            Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

            Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

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            I’m with you - I’d pay extra for a phone that doesn’t take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

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            I’m on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

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                Goes both ways

                No one was arguing the other way…

                “What a shame, better write an e-mail.”

                Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.

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                  The future of industry is doomed with gen z being militantly unwilling to take a phone call. But I am holding onto some hope because I hear they’re also spearheading the CD music revival, so I just hope they also recognise the retro-coolness of telecommunication.

                  Otherwise, the art of verbal communication will die. People will meet and connect via text, only to be completely overwhelmed when they meet irl and have to talk to one another face to face. But social life is inconsequential. However, at the end of the day, if you can’t talk on the phone for the purpose of business communication, your just a fucking pussy.

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                  We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.

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                    WTF is a “communication partner”?

                    Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it’s not urgent or doesn’t require discussion or you just don’t like me.

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        Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

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          It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.

          I guess if you’re not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone’s experiences should mirror yours exactly.

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            You still did not answer my question. Pinephone has those issues with all Linux OSes, so do ports for many phones. Officially supported phones do not to my knowledge.

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              You asked 1 question, which I very clearly did answer. I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.

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            It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.

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      It also isn’t as performant for the price, or so I’ve heard. They’re working on it, but it isn’t up to par with big name companies.

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        What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven’t come across anything my phone couldn’t run in over a decade. I haven’t had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?