The struggle is worse the older you get.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    I mean…yes?

    I get that this is supposed to be a joke, but, I don’t get the joke. This is literally how weight loss works.

    Eat less.

    Eat healthier.

    Exercise.

    Weight loss is hard because it’s hard to stick to it. But the concepts aren’t complicated. Caleries in minus caleries burned equals caleries stored as fat.

    Less caleries means less unburned caleries means less fat.

    • druk@feddit.uk
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      As most things about the human body, it actually is more complicated. Caloric restriction also causes biological responses in our bodies, influencing hormones such as ghrelin and leptin which physiologically alter hunger and satiety. Some people can even be resistant to leptin for example, meaning that they struggle with a lack of satiety. Our bodies have also been shown to reduce their energy requirements by about 200 calories per day when intake is restricted.

      So even if we disregard the problems the claim it’s just a matter of willpower, there are other, biological things to consider.

      All this to say, it is undoubtedly good to have more fiber, around 1.2-1.6g protein per kg of bodyweight, 120minutes of excercise a week and strength training, or just whatever we can implement into our routines.

      Oh, and one more thing, fatness isn’t a ubiquitous measure of healthiness or virtue, and thinness isn’t either. We have to challenge our assumptions and biases, a lot of which come from our cultures and media.

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        Oh, and one more thing, fatness isn’t a ubiquitous measure of healthiness or virtue, and thinness isn’t either. We have to challenge our assumptions and biases, a lot of which come from our cultures and media.

        I’ve discovered this more and more playing pickleball, of all things. People who “look” out of shape have handed my ass to me, MANY times, because their knowledge, range of motion, and discipline have gotten them to where they were, without being traditionally “skinny”.

        If anything I’ve learned not to discount “older” players, because they hold up with me, sometimes 20 years younger, fantastically. I hope to have the same drive in the future.

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        Oh, and one more thing, fatness isn’t a ubiquitous measure of healthiness or virtue, and thinness isn’t either. We have to challenge our assumptions and biases, a lot of which come from our cultures and media.

        It kinda is… obesity is not healthy. Period. It’s bad for your joints, your organs, it’s a driver for cancers and other illnesses. The HAES movement is partially to blame for this massive spike in obesity we’re seeing. All of those links you post, are not causing the majority of people to be obese. The epidemic is not something that happened in the past, it’s quite recent.

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      this “common knowledge” “weight loss” stuff typically neglects how dieting will affect ur caloric rate. if u just starve urself, ur muscles will grow smaller and u will need fewer calories to maintain ur normal functioning body, meaning u need to eat even less again to not put on fat. but if u train ur muscles directly, they will beg for more calories so they can grow, and the calories needed to maintain them will also increase.

      for anyone interested, i suggest reading a physical education by casey johnston.

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      Just don’t have an eating disorder / addiction is what these posts suggest you know. 4Head shit. The entire problem is they struggle with saying no. Like a heroin addict. “Just eat less” is worthless advice.

      “Eat less, and here’s how to learn this disipline while dealing with the myriad of possible root causes of your disordered function” would be a start. Nutritionists exist for this purpose.

      It’s a mental weakness many people clearly have given it’s an epidemic. Exploited by their dealers: Capitalists involved in food industry.

      Edit: evidently i’ve stumbled into /r/fatpeoplehate

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        It’s not fat people hate to acknowledge that eating less is how you lose weight.

        Your take or stance about capitalism and addiction is true also, but yeah addicts are addicts if it’s heroin or food or sex or alcohol.

        Some addictions / pleasures aren’t super unhealthy and some are.

        Either way, the trick to it is to eat less. Same as the “trick” to getting off opiates is to stop using them.

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          Yeah all that’s right but you’re overlooking the fact that “just stop” almost never works. People can know this, rationally. But they still fall into addiction. It takes a more complicated approach than “just stop” most of the time.