In this comment my use of the “b” word was overzealously suppressed, silently without telling me. I only discovered it when re-reading my post.

There are THREE #LemmyBug cases here:

  1. when the “b” word is used as a verb, it’s not a slur. And when it’s used as a noun, it’s only a slur if not literally referring to a dog.

  2. my post was tampered with without even telling me. Authors should be informed when their words are manipulated and yet still presented to others as their own words.

  3. The word “removed” cannot simply replace any word. It makes my sentence unreadable. In the very least, the word should be “REDACTED”, and there should be a footnote added that explains /why/ it was redacted.

  • can@sh.itjust.works
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    I think you’re better off changing instances to one that doesn’t use the filter.

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      Do you know what I should look for? Is it the version number? I recall Lemmy was forked to Lenny, but not sure how to recognize Lenny instances.

      (btw, fwiw, I wouldn’t use sh.itjust.works because that’s even more nannied [by Cloudflare]).

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        It’s not a fork or version number thing. It’s just a instance admin toggle as far as I’m aware.

        Lemmy.ml was actually the only one I knew of previously with it enabled.

        sh.itjust.works, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world, etc all dont have the filter.

        Have you messaged your instance admin? They may not be fully aware of the implications of having the filter on.

        And regarding cloudflair at least on sh.itjust.works we’re still hoping its a temporary measure.

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        I don’t think lemmy comes with a filter enabled by default, so you could probably move to most other instances

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    I agree with those that say if you cannot live with the filter you should pick a new instance. Part of this whole experiment is that each admin is going to go with defaults they are comfortable with, and as a user you need to be respectful of those, or move on.

    I do you agree with you that REDACTED works better in this case than “removed”, as I always see “removed” as a user action for whatever reason. Even the use of something like FILTERED would immediately alert the user and others that the original word(s) was/were removed and a basic understanding of why (it triggered the slur filter somehow).

    I guess I would also go and change the “slur” filter language to just language filter, as not everyone is going to agree on everything an admin may want to filter being a “slur”, it could be any taboo word in that admins location.

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      There are bug reports and then there is user support. There’s some confusion because I filed a bug report in a user support community (because there is no bug reporting community).

      Indeed the user support solution is to either request that the admin to change the slur filter config, or change instances. But the purpose of the thread was to report a bug in an in-band way (without interacting with a Microsoft asset [#deleteGithub]).

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    No, it’s definitely still slurry when used as a verb. The connotation is “You are acting like a woman and that is bad because women are bad.” Don’t use it.

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      I can see your point in many situations but when I say I am the one b*tching (myself… in the 1st person), in this context I am not saying I am acting badly myself. So the “women are bad” narrative doesn’t follow. In this case the word merely serves as a more expressive complaint.

      If someone were to talk about someone else b*tching, it might well be what you’re saying, as they are complaining about someone else complaining & maybe they oppose that other person complaining or their aggressive style thereof.

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        I think the other thing to remember is that in different English speaking countries the word as a verb causes a different level of offence.

        In British English it’s not offensive at all to say someone was b***ing about something.

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          Frankly it isn’t offensive in much of America either, typically only to church going grandmas who wish to sanitize all obsceneties, or people who connect a lot of dots with assumption that they know what you really mean, that it can’t possibly simply be synonymous with “complaining” in the same way “ass” means “butt,” because of course all men think women are bad and stupid because men are bad and stupid.