• Telorand@reddthat.com
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      I know you don’t necessarily mean it this way, but there’s a very interesting (and infuriating) history to why the US reveres the wealthy. The short version is that the ultra wealthy were pissed about the New Deal, so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh.

      We will have to overcome that idea if we hope to gain real class consciousness.

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        The short version is that the ultra wealthy were pissed about the New Deal, so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh.

        That concept existed WAY before the United State did.

        The old idea was kings were rich because they were ordained to be kings by god. Questioning why the king was rich was questioning the word of god and punishable by death.

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          Sure, but why it exists today in the US is a direct result of the robber barons’ influence in the early 1900s. The core idea isn’t new, but this instance is.

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      Because most Americans with slack jaws hunch over their smartphone gawking at tiktok videos of people they hope to one day be but never will.

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        “mOsT aMeRiCaNs…”

        Blah, blah, blah. If you can tell me how to un-fuck this nation in a way that will actually wake people up, I’m all ears. But the way I see it, these things were insidiously marketed to the whole country slowly and incrementally, like frog in a slowly warming pot of water. Those of us who jumped out of the pot are watching in horror as the rest get boiled alive.

        The problem is, frogs don’t have opposable thumbs and we can’t turn the gas off - so the pot keeps boiling.

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          The best you and I can do is to look out for each other, our friends and family and help anyone else that manages to escape the pot as quickly as possible so they don’t get back in…

          My thoughts are that people are animals and they’ll follow where the majority go, so keep helping others escape the pot and eventually, more will notice there is an exit option and jump as well.

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            At the moment, I see this as the only real answer. Until there’s proper organization and resistance, everything is lip service.

            Mobilization is easy - the protests and marches get people together in solidarity. But organization takes effort: it takes talking to people, getting numbers/contact info, making plans and deciding what’s next…

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          If you can tell me how to un-fuck this nation in a way that will actually wake people up

          People are already Woke Up. They’re still powerless.

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            Yeah right. Almost half the people I talk to are not happy but are burning their heads in the sand and waiting/hoping for this to blow over. It can’t happen here and all that.

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          This doesn’t happen in a bubble though. We need those people too. We need each other.

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        Really feeling the victim blaming here when they made the devices into virtual heroine

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      Whatcha gonna do about them?

      It’s not like I invite any of them over to smoke a joint. They exist and I can’t do much about it