Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.
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Didn’t it start right as Helen Pao left?
If AI floods every single comment section, to the point the humaness of social media has been completely removed (which it is reaching that imo), how would it effect our consumption of it?
Looking at instagram, my feed is mostly meaningless garbage (which might be my fault to an extent), but what it has meant I simply don’t find any reason to go onto it at all. Would this happen on mass if/when AI is so prevalent (lets say a 9:1 bot commenter to human commenter ratio), that we simply have no interest in it anymore?
Either that or folks will happily shovel the slop into their eyeballs and lose all critical thinking ability. It’s a toss-up.
lose all critical thinking ability
Are we already at this point?
Gross.
I continue to have my own little cognitive dissonance about the Fediverse:
The world needs more FOSS and information needs to flow in a decentralized, democratic kind of way.
Howeverrrrr… Lemmy is awesome for we few that it clicks with. For the good of the users and especially the volunteer admins who run our instances, I am glad Lemmy is not the big glowing target that reddit is.
Maybe we just hang out and keep the lights on no matter whether it’s for occasional lost Linux users or for when mainstream folks decide to ditch oligarch-tech en masse.
Lemmy has the feel to me that reddit did back in the day. I can only imagine as lemmy gets more popular and becomes big enough for big tech to take notice, that it will become consumed by the same garbage reddit has. Lemmy just isnt big enough yet for them to try and consume.
So for now Lemmy is great, but its only a matter of time before the turds find us here too.
The federation will make lemmy a slippery target because as threads has shown us you can add a compromised server and people will block the instance or if it gets annoying enough admins will defederate it.
but how will we discover the compromised servers when the company running it did not announce it loudly?
and even then the bigger problem could be the advertiser users. lots of moderation capacity would be needed, or some kind of flagging automatism, but as we seen with Piefed people are hating even just milder such things.
This sounds bad, but once the teens and grandparents find lemmy, then its game over. It happened to facebook and it happened to reddit. The masses cause a sort of averaging out of content.
How do we keep the fediverse niche?
How do we keep the fediverse niche?
Selective federation with servers that only give accounts to humans?
The decentralized model gives it a good head start against financial interest and populist mass adoption.
Oh, this is great.
Users noticed that Google had too much bad results because of SEO and spam flooded search results.
Users added “reddit” to their search terms, so they get results from reddit, where spam and astroturfing were… there but manageable.
Now the SEO people and advertisers target reddit with AI tools, until it is so enshitificated that we have to find something else (rinse and repeat)
“No, don’t leave, we just finished saturating the space with ads!”
“Why do you think we leave?”
I mean astroturfing reddit was never new. It’s why /r/HailCorporate existed and tools tried to disenfranchise that sub so much.
It’s just 10 times worse because of the phenomenon you described. It also doesn’t help that reddit and walled garden social media killed traditional forums so you don’t have those to index anymore either. You either have SEO garbage sites trying to bombard you with ads and referral links, links to a walled garden you can’t actually see, or reddit posts.
It’s a cycle that’s bound to repeat, especially with AI. Because that’s how MBAs and snake oil salesmen get money, by ruining communal spaces.
This person is late to the game. Reddit has been like this for years.
In line of SEO, it makes me think, with how the fediverse works, it could end up being a search engine of its own. Including, I may add, for external contents as tracking bots are made. Quite an interesting realization.
In any case, fuck spez.
Reddit right now is banning any criticism of ICE. Reddit covered up for Ghislaine’s account (maxwellhill), even though they’ve attended very public events with her as CEO Ellen Pao revealed, and they have narcissistic megalomaniac psychopath Jibberish (deliberately mistyping) who has trained decades on how to be the best psychopath they can be on social manipulation MMOs also heading and manipulating their “conservative” subreddit, who subscribing to also seems to be a flag within the system to begin showing you subs engineered to manipulate you with their messaging. Oh, and all the other non-conspiracy theory stuff, which there is plenty of.
reddit banned me, so i upvoted this post
Plot twist: They did not build shit, the text is generated by AI, and whatever they do is still done by third country workers.
The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It’s not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don’t expect any praise from me.
Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.
A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.
Normal Users:
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Post replies
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Up and Downvote
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Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.
And maybe that works for normal online interactions.
Sure, it’s fine if you’re an entry level Lemmy user
But you’ll never change the culture of the internet.
So we came up with
Something that’s
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It’s called memes.
memory lane man
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Decent chance that post was written by AI as well. Or it was a marketing copywriter. Either way it wasn’t written by a normal human.
Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.
I get the feeling you and Bill Hicks would have gotten along: https://youtu.be/9h9wStdPkQY
Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die
Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don’t need is a trash career. It’s not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.
MOST jobs aren’t productive or necessary. Just depends on how its used. Gotta have some nuance
here is to hoping that lemmy never grows
Reddit is the new Facebook. Kids don’t think it’s cool so they avoid it. Got this first hand. It’s got a big userbase so it’ll take a while to topple, but they probably already know this and will squeeze everything out of it to the last drop.
It used to be a place I could turn to to get some real reviews, in sofar that it ruined google, and now I can’t trust any of Reddit’s content anymore because of things like the OP.
God, I just hate the way these people fucking talk. Everything is a bulleted list and sentence fragments.
100% written by an LLM. They always use this tone and it’s infuriating.
People who abuse GenAI no longer can tell when the shit they post look like GenAI. They only talk to AI so it looks normal to them.
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That’s one of the signs of LLM output, take any idea and have it flesh it out into short article. It’ll bullet point the crap out of it
It comes from marketing copy. Same with the emdash. My company has a style guide for marketing material and it calls out using bulleted lists and em dashes exactly how AI does it.
Yeah, but even when it’s not an LLM, they type like this now
Monkey see, monkey do…
LLMs learned it by watching these idiots.
Like the world’s worst haiku.
