This sounds like a stupid question, but I’m being genuine.

He is telling people to eat more meat, which sounds absolutely insane to me.

What qualifies him to give health advice ? Why are americans trusting him ?

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    Wtf is wrong with being a former heroin addict? I know plenty of drug users and former drug users who aren’t fascist shitstains and are actually pleasant people. Also like, you’re going after him for being a former addict? God forbid someone be in a bad place in life and luckily manage to recover from it… Addiction, a health condition, just morally scars you for life then? Would you say that about someone who recovered from cancer? Fuck off.

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      yeah the question is not phrased properly

      it should be “why are the people who give former drug addicts a bunch of shit when it’s convenient to them now paying attention to a former addict”

      It’s about the hypocrisy, not the person’s past

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    A third of the US are beyond help, beyond fucking stupid. Another third can’t be arsed to do anything, they’re so apathetic. One will follow without question, the other might go either way.

    Also Shitler put RFK in place, so we’re all forced to hear his moronic opinions…

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      Apathy comes from depression and grasping at things that don’t make sense can be read as anxiety. America failed to develop an educational system and now has no clue how to cope with stresses being applied to it.

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    Americans don’t trust him at all. His own large, famous family hates him with a passion, every single one of them. He was thrust upon us by professional trolls who think it’s hilarious to watch people who actually care about their nation and it’s citizens get upset.

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    Being a heroin addict does not make you a bad person anymore than having diabetes. Fuck off with that moralistic shit.

    The guy is a scourge of humanity because of the choices he made and beliefs he holds. Don’t make it look like heroin is the cause.

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      No on said heroin makes you a bad person, it sure as hell doesn’t give you credit to give health advice.

      Would you take driving lessons from someone who’s never driven a car? Or has crashed every car they’ve owned?

      Same idea, who the fuck is this McDonald’s eating fuck to give advice on health?

      Not to mention all the dumbass comments he’s made about nearly eradicated diseases like measles, he’s a trumper, so he supports child rape and murdering of civilians who dont lick the boots and bow down to tangerine shitler.

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        The clickbait title implies the problem is his drug use and not, you know, any of his actual character flaws.

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    This is honestly a disgusting take because it shows how biased you are against addicts. Not a stupid question. Just a nasty one. Your 2nd and 3rd are good questions though. I don’t think there’s jack shit qualifying him to give health advice in reality. He’s a crackpot supplement pusher. Which I feel kinda answers your 3rd; americans have a long history of being stupid and blindly trusting whatever the pill-pusher says, because they hear what they want to hear. Unfortunately.

    I hate RFK and all the damage he’s done/is doing to our country’s general state of health. His history of addiction is literally last on the list of reasons not to trust him. In my view, a history of addiction (now being in recovery) usually gives you a pretty sane view of health, since it brings you so close to death. The overwhelming majority of recovering addicts that I know lead healthier lifestyles than non-addicts. Oftentimes when people see with clarity how much damage they’ve done to themselves, they desperately want to treat their body better.

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      This was exactly my first thought. He should be disqualified for many reasons, but that ain’t one of them. Thinking that way is why we have him.

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    As much as I wish this dude would immediately suffer cardiac arrest from a clogged artery, him being a former addict has nothing to do with anything, and in itself doesn’t devalue anything he says. That kind of thinking is pretty problematic, and you need to have a real hard think about the way you obviously look down on people who are recovering from addiction, cause honestly you’re being pretty shitty right now.

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      Mmmm, I think there’s still a point to the question. Being an addict is not a moral failing; it doesn’t make you less of a person. But the vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.

      t’s like how people ask Christians why they vote for someone who’s been married x times. Personally idgaf how many times Trump has been married, I care about how many women and children he has assaulted. I don’t think divorce is a moral failing; hell, I don’t believe in the institution of marriage by the state. But, the very same people who hold him up also claim to believe that it should make him unworthy.

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        vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.

        While true, they’re also the segment of the population most impacted by the opioid epidemic.

        There is no logistical consistency in the conservative mind, we have to stop trying to make square pegs fit into something that doesn’t even have holes. These folks go with how they feel, and they adore having a health and human services leader who gives them validation for believing in magic water, essential oil and avoidance of scarrrrryyyy needles and vaccines. That’s ALL they care about, nothing in his background would change that. NOTHING.

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      He spent his entire life literally destroying his mind. Is he bad because he is an addict? Perhaps not, but he has significant brain damaged because of the drugs.

      I am all for recovery but the truth is he will never have the mental faculties to be a leader because of his life choices. He will never be able to make a full recovery. That is not discrimination, that is just reality.

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            They do, i know. Theyre not certain. The consequences depend on lots of factors. To disqualify someone because they used drugs without looking more into how it affected that specific person is fatalist bullshit.

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              Oh yeah, I totally get that. It is obvious that RFK has brain damage which affects his ability to think clearly. This is specific to him doing hard drugs for decades.

              Also, just because you wouldn’t make a good leader because of damage you did to your mind does not change that you should be treated with dignity and care.

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          When oxygen to the brain is habitually suppressed, brain damage can occur. That’s not fatalist, it’s just reality.

          That doesn’t imply addiction is a moral failing. It’s a disease, and diseases can have permanent effects.

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            I agree brain damage CAN occur. Thats not the same statement i was criticizing.

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                No no. I was calling the logic bullshit. The reasoning was bad, not the conclusion. Learn to interpret text.

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      I do not need to take a hard look at this to clearly see that this is a person who does not approach life with the scientific method in mind.

      Being a drug addict does not accidentally happen. It suggests a flawed decision making process which should make someone ineligible to be making decisions which affect millions of people.

      I don’t look down on someone for being a heroin user, but I do trust their decision making process less than I would trust someone who did not make that decision.

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      You can’t get a security clearance with a history of narcotics addiction. Nor can you join the military. Because the addiction compromises you and your judgement.

      There is no such thing as a ‘former addict’.

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        Because the addiction compromises you and your judgement.

        so does having questioned the US or Israeli governments, or participated in any protests or activism. as an example, yours was a pretty bad one.

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          Uh huh. Apply for a security clearance sometime and see how far they sniff up your ass before you’re granted access to that scif you need to do your job.

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    Why are americans taking health advice from a man who got brain worms from eating roadkill and didnt learn his lesson?

    Thats the more appropriate question.

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    Heartwarming how many comments are defending sufferers of addiction in here from being lumped in with this piece of shit. Fedi remains such a breath of fresh air.

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      He might have had the microphone before, but then legions of non-voters granted him THE POWER over their lives!

      wHeN tHeRe’S aN eLeCTiOn YoU oNLy eLeCt OnE pErSoN!
      bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL
      i Am NoT LiKe A mEdiEvaL pEaSaNt, i Am a PuRe AnD eNLigHtEnEd DeLiCaTe FLoWeR

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        You don’t just elect one person. You elect that one and you get everyone that one appoints.

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    Even his own family members have said he is in no state of mind or health to be in any position of authority whatsoever.

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    I mean shit, i can’t tell you how many people, doctors included, have been aghast that i might have to take a pill every day the rest of my life for blood pressure. as though it’s an addiction. people are fucking idiots.

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      I’m sure he was just as crazy before and during as he is after.