It bears mentioning that none of this would have been necessary if people have gone out and VOTED in numbers like these.
Instead they first passively threw a tantrum enabling this Gestapo, now their country is a global pariah, not to be trusted again, while expending so much more energy, experiencing much more inconvenience and risk than voting, just to send a symbolic message to sociopaths who have the power, enjoy abusing it, and do NOT care to listen.
Which is to say: this is meaningless, voting is everything and you blew it yet again. But people insist on wanting to be inspired by one godking figurehead, refusing to understand how consistently voting just one day a year, in presidentials, midterms and off-years, is how political momentum is built or eroded, how a government is not one godking president, but an entire system with hundreds of thousands of civil servants, elected, appointed and hired, at every level of government, momentum builds slowly.
If Democrats ever win again, it will be with one hand tied behind their back, facing right-wing sabotage every step of the way, just as has happened every time since Jimmy Carter, and if they can’t wave a magic political wand and fix this unfixable mess in one go, the oh-so-precious impatient electorate is going to throw yet another destructive tantrum and back to square minus five or worse.
Voting is the bare minimum.
The populace has grown complacent, disengaged, & polarized by neglecting to organize, recruit, educate, civically & politically engage each other in open, democratic discourse & community.
Enough participation to keep democracy relevant & engaged to the people’s interests is needed.
The way we engage with information & opinions of the community isn’t helping.
Instead of dividing the community through censorship & exclusion, a free, democratic society needs to openly resolve contentions by legitimately discrediting problematic causes & misinformation and by promoting better causes & information.
The social media trend of deplatforming each other with moderation rules maintaining “brand safety” exacerbates divisions & denies society the necessary exercise of airing & openly contending with ugly ideas or seeing the sometimes violent, unvarnished truth (eg, incidents of deadly violence).
Voting can stop you from going backwards, but voting alone is not enough. It will not fix the mess we are in by itself. It’s vote and take action not vote or take action. There is absolutely not time to wait for elections. Voting is important, but it has to be done with other action or the country will not survive
Minnesota is also in the middle of general strike today as well. Statewide, for the first time in almost 100 years. Economic power matter, and people are starting to use their leverage there in a real meaningful way
This is decades in the making. Voting got us here. Couch surfing got us here. It doesn’t fuckin matter what got us here. Be helpful, be supportive, get out and take your rights however you see fit (peaceful or not) or shut the fuck up already. Blame needs to come later. The horse is dead.
A captured system is just that. There’s no right vote in it. You can argue the lesser of two evils but you are already on the downhill slide by the time that thought even occurs.
Despite the shit ancient system, it’s still possible to get a good outcome. But it requires people voting for good candidates consistently. Saying people should shut up about that and just get violent instead is not the way
Please grow the fuck up. The majority of people who didn’t vote for Harris weren’t, “throwing a tantrum.” They were tired, working class people who didn’t feel that voting would improve their lives and didn’t want to waste their time on it.
Election day is not a holiday in this country. Mail-in voting is not available in many states. Voting is a hardship, one which is most felt by working-class voters making hourly, minimum wage. If you want those people to vote for you, you have to give them something to vote for.
How did the Democrats do that? Well, first they ran an 80-year-old man that the majority of their voters didn’t want running in an essentially unchallenged primary. Then, when the cognitive issues his team were clearly hiding spilled out on national TV, they allowed him to dig his heals in and stay in the race until the 11th hour. When he finally dropped out, they replaced him with a candidate who failed to win a single primary state and had her campaign with Republicans because they decided it was better for her to appeal to conservatives than her base. Oh, and they wouldn’t stop funding a genocide, can’t forget that.
It is not the voters job to get politicians elected; it is literally the exact opposite of that. The Democrats did a spectacularly bad job in 2024, and the fact that the people associated with the administration and the campaign still have influence within the party is absurd and disgusting. Point the blame at those who deserve it.
It bears mentioning that none of this would have been necessary if people have gone out and VOTED in numbers like these.
Instead they first passively threw a tantrum enabling this Gestapo, now their country is a global pariah, not to be trusted again, while expending so much more energy, experiencing much more inconvenience and risk than voting, just to send a symbolic message to sociopaths who have the power, enjoy abusing it, and do NOT care to listen.
Which is to say: this is meaningless, voting is everything and you blew it yet again. But people insist on wanting to be inspired by one godking figurehead, refusing to understand how consistently voting just one day a year, in presidentials, midterms and off-years, is how political momentum is built or eroded, how a government is not one godking president, but an entire system with hundreds of thousands of civil servants, elected, appointed and hired, at every level of government, momentum builds slowly.
If Democrats ever win again, it will be with one hand tied behind their back, facing right-wing sabotage every step of the way, just as has happened every time since Jimmy Carter, and if they can’t wave a magic political wand and fix this unfixable mess in one go, the oh-so-precious impatient electorate is going to throw yet another destructive tantrum and back to square minus five or worse.
Voting is the bare minimum. The populace has grown complacent, disengaged, & polarized by neglecting to organize, recruit, educate, civically & politically engage each other in open, democratic discourse & community. Enough participation to keep democracy relevant & engaged to the people’s interests is needed.
The way we engage with information & opinions of the community isn’t helping. Instead of dividing the community through censorship & exclusion, a free, democratic society needs to openly resolve contentions by legitimately discrediting problematic causes & misinformation and by promoting better causes & information. The social media trend of deplatforming each other with moderation rules maintaining “brand safety” exacerbates divisions & denies society the necessary exercise of airing & openly contending with ugly ideas or seeing the sometimes violent, unvarnished truth (eg, incidents of deadly violence).
Political power grows from the barrel of a vote 🫢
We’ve consistently got the best voter turnout in the country here in Minnesota, it’s everyone else who needs to get on our level.
Voting can stop you from going backwards, but voting alone is not enough. It will not fix the mess we are in by itself. It’s vote and take action not vote or take action. There is absolutely not time to wait for elections. Voting is important, but it has to be done with other action or the country will not survive
Minnesota is also in the middle of general strike today as well. Statewide, for the first time in almost 100 years. Economic power matter, and people are starting to use their leverage there in a real meaningful way
This is decades in the making. Voting got us here. Couch surfing got us here. It doesn’t fuckin matter what got us here. Be helpful, be supportive, get out and take your rights however you see fit (peaceful or not) or shut the fuck up already. Blame needs to come later. The horse is dead.
Voting wrong got us here. Of course it matters what got us here. It matters a lot.
It’s interesting that when people remind you of that you want them to shut up and spur them out of the trenches
A captured system is just that. There’s no right vote in it. You can argue the lesser of two evils but you are already on the downhill slide by the time that thought even occurs.
Despite the shit ancient system, it’s still possible to get a good outcome. But it requires people voting for good candidates consistently. Saying people should shut up about that and just get violent instead is not the way
Historically democrats have mostly kept a lot of bad stuff done by republicans. Voting only delayed the catastrophe waiting to happen
Then people voted for the wrong democrats in the primaries?
Please grow the fuck up. The majority of people who didn’t vote for Harris weren’t, “throwing a tantrum.” They were tired, working class people who didn’t feel that voting would improve their lives and didn’t want to waste their time on it.
Election day is not a holiday in this country. Mail-in voting is not available in many states. Voting is a hardship, one which is most felt by working-class voters making hourly, minimum wage. If you want those people to vote for you, you have to give them something to vote for.
How did the Democrats do that? Well, first they ran an 80-year-old man that the majority of their voters didn’t want running in an essentially unchallenged primary. Then, when the cognitive issues his team were clearly hiding spilled out on national TV, they allowed him to dig his heals in and stay in the race until the 11th hour. When he finally dropped out, they replaced him with a candidate who failed to win a single primary state and had her campaign with Republicans because they decided it was better for her to appeal to conservatives than her base. Oh, and they wouldn’t stop funding a genocide, can’t forget that.
It is not the voters job to get politicians elected; it is literally the exact opposite of that. The Democrats did a spectacularly bad job in 2024, and the fact that the people associated with the administration and the campaign still have influence within the party is absurd and disgusting. Point the blame at those who deserve it.