• Janx@piefed.social
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    2 hours ago

    If we’re fine with resorting to violence to get what we want, we’re no better than them. If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same…

    BUT, this doesn’t mean we should never, ever resort to force as a final, last, desperate act, but only when there’s no other option.

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      2 hours ago

      As with Batman, the number only remains the same if you only kill one murderer. Kill two, and that’s a net positive!

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        55 minutes ago

        What Gotham really needs is safety bars around acid pools and more than one licensed therapist, preferably one that doesn’t turn into a manic pixie dream clown

      • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 hour ago

        I’d say we throw that hypothetical person a parade. During which, they are presented with various awards, and accolades. Definitely an honorary doctorate somewhere too. We would then of course need to nominate that person for a Nobel peace prize—and I’d bet they’d win.

    • NONE@lemmy.world
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      we’re no better than them.

      The slave doesn’t want to be better than the slaver, they want to be free.

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      48 minutes ago

      If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same…

      Lmfao, you really cannot be serious with this kind of reasoning, right?

      If you are serious, here’s an equally as ingenuous counter argument:

      • If you kill two murderers or more you will have effectively reduced the number of murderers in the world…
    • Caillte@sh.itjust.works
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      1 hour ago

      There’s an argument that murder is unlawful killing of another human. If ending the life of a murderer is done lawfully, the number is m-1.

      I am not claiming that I support this theory, just putting it into the discourse as a thing that some folks could easily believe.

      Also, it’s semantics as the argument you’re making still perfectly holds if the word murderer is swapped for ‘killer’