Lately I’ve been noticing that the people who mainly should not have children, whether due to economic limitations, illnesses, or even mental instability, are the ones who have the most children, and many times they end up as single fathers/mothers. My question is whether it would be a good idea to implement some kind of regulation and set minimum requirements that must be met, mainly to prevent the child from ending up in the future as a criminal or a social burden due to those factors.

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    And what are your own thoughts on this? Your concerns? At what is troubling you? Questions like these are not spontaneous. Something must have stirred them in your mind.

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      This comment thread of theirs was likely the start, but probably not the first time they’ve thought about this.

      Not just rich people, also stupidity is a threat to democracy but how to fix it?

      Unfortunately, most people didn’t realize their instance and replied in good faith. Someone replied to them basically saying that education was dismantled to keep people stupid to benefit the rich, and then OP replied with a lovely comment hinting at eugenics.

      Trust me there are people who even using the best education they stop being stupid is like it is in their genes.

      They commented that right before this post. Notice how they wanted to “fix” stupidity, and then they tried to pull the conversation into supporting eugenics.

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        That may be it. Or it may be something else. And that is why I am still hoping OP will reply to me.

        Talking and exchanging ideas and viewpoints is the best way to push back stupidity, which I think it has been extremely abused as a word lately, when ignorance would be better used.

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          OP’s mind is already made up, as you can see. They just wanted to ruffle up some feathers. They aren’t here for actual debate.

          They’re “just asking questions” in the Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro way.

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      Honestly I don’t care too much about it, I was just wondering what will happen if there is still no control about all the people just having kids wo any requirement while they don’t have any condition to support these kids correctly. But I stated in other comments before I don’t believe it is of any interest to the government or anyone with power to do such a thing, they need cheap labor force to move the economy so they will let everyone in such conditions to keep having even more kids.

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        Birth rates are on a decline, globally. There is more concern about aging demography than the opposite.

        But who would you consider “fit” to have offspring?

        Most people are more concerded about making a life for themselves than raising a family, nowadays. Survival is an adequate way to put it.

        Rising cost of living, paired with low or simply inadequate wages, poor working conditions, environmental concerns, political concerns or just simple life option is making more and more shy away from having a family.

        And this is pretty universal. Unless religious views, often paired with repressive and regressive views on womens rights and autonomy, and culture weighs heavily on the matter, many choose to not have children or have one or two, at most. Less than sufficient to maintain a population stable.

        Arguing that cheap labour will always be necessary is a risky assessment, when advanced robotics and automatization has been pushing people away from the industries that would soak up the people with less education.

        And with the ever growing push to funnel money away from workers to instead distribute profits to shareholders, things get even worst.

        States should be considering a full and complete review on taxation. There is no justification for an individual or a country to hold more money than entire countries GDP. Profits are unpaid fair wages. Without fair wages, misery settles and becomes the norm.