Be it books, movies, documentaries, or even music. I feel like I have people around me whom wish to fight violence with violence, with mentalities like “we should just counter-invade and show them who’s boss” or “I’m not afraid to fight for what I believe in”, showing a clear intent against an “enemy”.

“The enemy” is such a dehumanizing perspective, and only breeds further animosity. I wish for them to see that we all manage to find justifications for our actions, but that doesn’t make it worthy of just any sacrifice.

I recently saw the Norwegian movie Max Manus, which is about real events during WW2.

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He survives, but with almost none of his friends, and after the war he struggles with alcoholism and nightmares for the rest of his life.

It left me with a feeling of despite “victory”, many people paid with more than just their life. And this is the feeling I wish others to feel, just for a bit, and ponder if “doing the right thing” really is the best thing.

No one should want conflict, and I wish to emphasize just how much we really should try and avoid warmongering. I’ve seen uncensored videos from modern wars, been in the military, had a great grandfather who fought in WW2 (who also struggled with nightmares and PTSD until his natural death), and all of it makes me dread the potential of the horrors that happen to everyone involved in an armed conflict, especially the innocents and the kids…

So, any suggestions for media that conveys this in a way that makes one really reflect?

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    Appreciate this post. I’d welcome any suggestion to help deglorify guns to a kid, too

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      NSFW, but you can youtube a number of firearms accidents. Blown barrels peeled like bananas, exploded chambers etc…

      Guns are fascinating to some boys, until they see the accidents of simple range use. Blinded. Dead. Near misses of dead. Lost hands and faces. Gun safety vids serve as a warning to not fuck around.

      Careful with age appropriate. Seriously nsfw nsfl.

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        This is a good suggestion because even if you’re unable to dissuade the interest in guns, you might at least make the kid think twice about safety before they eventually handle one and thus prevent a tragedy.

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      This may not be the approach you have in mind, and it kind of depends on the kid’s personality, but one of the ways to de-glorify and de-romanticize something is to de-mistify it, to take it out of fantasy and make it real (to the point of being mundane).

      To that end, consider Forgotten Weapons on YouTube. Ian will discuss a single gun, its design history, manufacturing, intended use, disassembly and cleaning, along with regular reminders about gun safety. Ian will even talk about the political and financing decisions that led to a particular gun being made (accounting is of course the height of glory).

      If the kid finds the history, engineering and basic maintenance discussion to be boring, they might lose interest in the topic altogether. Alternatively, if they find it interesting, you might steer an unhealthy interest in violence toward something productive (history and/or mechanical engineering).

      Keep in mind that forbidding access to something just adds to the mystery and romance around it and can have the effect of increasing the desire for it.

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      It’s definitely a tight rope. I was a bit of a “gun nut” as a teen. Mostly by way of fiction and research.

      But the difference, and why I’m probably alive and with all my fingers today, is my dad constantly and heavily emphasized safety alongside exposure in controlled environments. They were something to fear and respect, but not be afraid of.

      I worry about this as a soon to be father myself. We might be in a situation where arms become necessary, God forbid.

      An interest can be healthy, but we definitely need to put the ridiculous carelessness and violence-porn power fantasies into the “outrageous stupid entertainment in moderation” box, rather than glorifying it as a core part of our culture.