• bbboi@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 hours ago

    had no control over the policies over the USSR.

    But supported them

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 hours ago

      Not everyone the term was or has been applied to supported them. But regardless, they still used whatever influence they had to push for fewer tanks.

      If I’m an American and I’m out protesting the Vietnam War, and I say that we should end the war and stop building tanks, and that the Vietnamese communists were justified in rising up against the colonizers, does that make me pro-war? Does it make me pro-tank? Is the “peaceful” stance the one that says the Vietnamese were not justified so the US should stay in the war? That’s nonsense.

      But that’s the exact same logic you’re applying here and everywhere else. If someone supported peace and deescalation with the USSR during the Cold War, then they’d be accused of supporting or not sufficiently condemning how they handled the Hungarian uprising. If someone opposes the war in Ukraine, they’re accused of supporting or not sufficiently condemning Russia. If someone opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, they were accused of supporting or not sufficiently condemning 9/11 and Al Qaida. And so the peace advocates are always depicted as being violent, and it works the exact same way every single time. War is Peace.

      At this point, I accept that it’s always going to happen that way and that I’ll always be “the bad guy” for opposing war. I used to be a “terrorist sympathizer,” now I’m a “tankie” in another ten or twenty years, I’m sure I’ll be some other horrible thing. Who cares.

      • bbboi@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 hours ago

        At this point, I accept that it’s always going to happen that way and that I’ll always be “the bad guy” for opposing war.

        But you don’t. You subscribe to a pro-war, pro-colony ideology

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          8 hours ago

          But you don’t.

          Yes I do.

          You subscribe to a pro-war, pro-colony ideology

          And you poop out of your mouth, see I can make shit up based on absolutely nothing too.

            • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 hours ago

              Not my fault this is the only level of discourse y’all are capable of. I tried to have an intelligent conversation with you, you just started slinging random insults based on nothing.

              • bbboi@feddit.uk
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                8 hours ago

                You’re not an intellectual for blatantly posting misinformation.

                • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  8 hours ago

                  Name one piece of misinformation I posted. You’re just lobbing baseless insults again.

                  Having a different ideology or perspective from you is not misinformation. I said nothing that was factually inaccurate.