Why is every company right now making it impossible to understand what their app does?
I swear to fucking god, I’ve been looking for SAAS products at work to fill a role, they’re all branded as AI and not what the companies actually fucking do.
Office has like a 40 year plus reputation as THE office suite. What the fuck us copilot? That cheap knockoff OpenAI they debuted before it was really?
Because AI on its own doesn’t actually make a return, but by conflating the AI investment with a genuine productivity tool that’s making money, you can start to hide your poor choices.
Pre AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite!
Start of AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite and 3 subscribers to our AI offering (currently in their free testing period, plans already precancelled)
Now: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our AI services (that also features an office suite)
Except Nvidia’s product works. It’s the shit software they decided they needed Nvidia’s product to run that kinda does something but not in a real world usable state, that’s the issue
They’re being scammed in the sense that NVIDIA is selling a product for a usecase that can’t make them money despite NVIDIA advertising (or at least heavily implying) as such.
“Look at all these shovels, you’re gonna make so much money if you dig with our shovels, I’m sure you’re gonna find the treasure any minute!” knowing full well that there’s no treasure, or at least definitely not enough for everyone.
they are trying hard to peddle it to govt usage since they are likely a guaranteed revenue stream, things like palintir is being peddle hard by thiel to multiple countries.(including israel and defense contracting)
It’s because when so much money/power has pushed so long for people to make decisions based on money and not logic, we’ve now arrived at the point where even “the emperor’s new clothes” type moments can’t rein in the insanity; executives are bonused off this garbage and most employees who do know better–thanks to orgs’ own internal propaganda and structures–have given up caring and just publish the garbage and clock out(as they should).
I think I know why. Microsoft Office was a product. Their new strategy is Services. They want you to lease their services and have vendor lock-in forever. It takes a long time for businesses to migrate.
This has MBA written all over it. The idea that AI can just do whatever the client needs means that you can say your service does it all!
I think I know why. Microsoft Office was a product. Their new strategy is Services. They want you to lease their services and have vendor lock-in forever. It takes a long time for businesses to migrate.
They already did/do that and it’s called Office 365 and already have vendor lock-in with Windows, SSO services, Azure, etc
It’s going to fall apart and the industries using the tools are going to adopt a Unix philosophy of dedicated tools that do a specific job well. May take a Butlerian Jihad, but it will happen.
It’s already happening, in part because of this and in part because of the unstable, unpredictable US government.
Several European countries are looking towards investing in open source as a way to get away from American big tech because they’re suddenly considering US sanctions against them a real possibility, or at least a real threat.
FWIW, Office (or more accurately, everything that was part of Office) was renamed Microsoft 365 years ago, in 2020. That was long before the AI insanity.
Shouldn’t it be called Microsoft 250? There are 250 working days in a year. As soon as I’m home I’m using Thunderbird or Libreoffice, certainly not the product formerly known as Microsoft Office.
They stopped promoting “Office” brand when they saw success with Microsoft 365 and dropped Office 365. This was quite some time ago. Now they have just renamed an “app” called “Office” which was like a homescreen for Microsoft 365. I doubt anyone really used it and no one on lemmy seems to even recognize it.
Microsoft 365 bundles other products too like Windows and online Exchange. Guess it was confusing to have both office only and office plus others, and hence they dropped the office only.
Why?
Why is every company right now making it impossible to understand what their app does?
I swear to fucking god, I’ve been looking for SAAS products at work to fill a role, they’re all branded as AI and not what the companies actually fucking do.
Office has like a 40 year plus reputation as THE office suite. What the fuck us copilot? That cheap knockoff OpenAI they debuted before it was really?
Because AI on its own doesn’t actually make a return, but by conflating the AI investment with a genuine productivity tool that’s making money, you can start to hide your poor choices.
*Ding!*
Wow, you are right. This is a way for them to pump the bubble and their stock price up even more.
Pre AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite!
Start of AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite and 3 subscribers to our AI offering (currently in their free testing period, plans already precancelled)
Now: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our AI services (that also features an office suite)
It’s almost like theyre desperate for a return on investment not realizing they got scammed by Altman.
seems like altman /ms/amazon and google are kinda scammed by nvidia, arnt they less likely to get away less scathed, also oracle.
Except Nvidia’s product works. It’s the shit software they decided they needed Nvidia’s product to run that kinda does something but not in a real world usable state, that’s the issue
They’re being scammed in the sense that NVIDIA is selling a product for a usecase that can’t make them money despite NVIDIA advertising (or at least heavily implying) as such.
“Look at all these shovels, you’re gonna make so much money if you dig with our shovels, I’m sure you’re gonna find the treasure any minute!” knowing full well that there’s no treasure, or at least definitely not enough for everyone.
It’s like every gold rush in history, the ones who get rich are those selling the equipment, not those digging for gold.
they are trying hard to peddle it to govt usage since they are likely a guaranteed revenue stream, things like palintir is being peddle hard by thiel to multiple countries.(including israel and defense contracting)
It’s because when so much money/power has pushed so long for people to make decisions based on money and not logic, we’ve now arrived at the point where even “the emperor’s new clothes” type moments can’t rein in the insanity; executives are bonused off this garbage and most employees who do know better–thanks to orgs’ own internal propaganda and structures–have given up caring and just publish the garbage and clock out(as they should).
I think I know why. Microsoft Office was a product. Their new strategy is Services. They want you to lease their services and have vendor lock-in forever. It takes a long time for businesses to migrate.
This has MBA written all over it. The idea that AI can just do whatever the client needs means that you can say your service does it all!
It is a scam.
They already did/do that and it’s called Office 365 and already have vendor lock-in with Windows, SSO services, Azure, etc
Yeah but this is an AI service. See it’s different! /s
It’s worth $30 more per year. Aka it’s a subscription rate hike.
They hiked up all of the subscriptions. Then made it confusing as fuck to subscribe back to the one that you had.
Oh my god! Let me get my checkbook
I’ve seen people mention it elsewhere in this thread. But what is MBA? I get nothing relevant when I search for it.
Masters in Business Administration. The model by which all businesses have been run over the last century. The guide to late stage capitalism.
Gotcha, thanks.
It’s going to fall apart and the industries using the tools are going to adopt a Unix philosophy of dedicated tools that do a specific job well. May take a Butlerian Jihad, but it will happen.
It’s already happening, in part because of this and in part because of the unstable, unpredictable US government.
Several European countries are looking towards investing in open source as a way to get away from American big tech because they’re suddenly considering US sanctions against them a real possibility, or at least a real threat.
Ayup. Why build your company on a service with a US company when they can - and have - fuck you on a whim?
With standalone installs you can keep trucking. Service as subscription? That’s going to very quickly start dying off as the world destabilises.
I assume it’s for the CEO benefit. “Look boss, we’re pushing AI like you wanted”
Copilot is love, copilot is life. It’s okay friend - these are copilot times, but I still copilot you.
You forgot, “Copilot is mother, Copilot is father”. I suppose it’s an obscure reference now.
Did you copilot my wife!?
Copilot copilotted your Copilot. Something something marklar.
FWIW, Office (or more accurately, everything that was part of Office) was renamed Microsoft 365 years ago, in 2020. That was long before the AI insanity.
Microsoft 365 is a worse name than Microsoft Office.
I thought it was Office 365.
Oh well, guess they doubled down on stupid names.
Shouldn’t it be called Microsoft 250? There are 250 working days in a year. As soon as I’m home I’m using Thunderbird or Libreoffice, certainly not the product formerly known as Microsoft Office.
…2080 hours stateside, 260 working days…
If they could have you in the office more than 250 days they absolutely would. I bet they’re thinking 365 days is the perfect amount.
They stopped promoting “Office” brand when they saw success with Microsoft 365 and dropped Office 365. This was quite some time ago. Now they have just renamed an “app” called “Office” which was like a homescreen for Microsoft 365. I doubt anyone really used it and no one on lemmy seems to even recognize it.
I didn’t know Microsoft 365 and Office 365 were different things. From the outside, it’s as opaque as Apple’s version names.
Microsoft 365 bundles other products too like Windows and online Exchange. Guess it was confusing to have both office only and office plus others, and hence they dropped the office only.
It’s not about the user.
(it’s about sounding innovative and cool with whichever trend to the brainless money people aka shareholders)