Mike D@piefed.social to Showerthoughts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 days agoI've never been in a situation where me having a gun would have made things bettter.message-squaremessage-square283fedilinkarrow-up1405arrow-down156
arrow-up1349arrow-down1message-squareI've never been in a situation where me having a gun would have made things bettter.Mike D@piefed.social to Showerthoughts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 days agomessage-square283fedilink
minus-squareshalafi@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down9·2 days agoNot really, suicide is historically just under half of all gun deaths. But your point stands!
minus-squaretreesquid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up16·2 days agoIt hasn’t been under half in ages. In 2023 it was 58% in the US and in some areas it’s noticeably more
minus-squareshalafi@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up11·2 days agoHaven’t looked at numbers for 4-5 years, and holy shit did it flip around 2022-2023. Last I saw was 43-48%. Anyone want to see for themselves, this is a solid search: “cdc gun deaths” Plenty of data from solid sources to back treesquid. Thanks for getting me up to date! I was quite ignorant.
minus-squarek0e3@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up10·2 days agoWhat do you mean, “not really”? Is there a single type of gun-related death that is more common? Because OP is saying “the most common,” not “the majority”.
minus-squarelad@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·2 days agoTurns out now it’s also the majority
minus-squarebillwashere@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down2·2 days agoI think you missed the point. Not what percentage of gun deaths are suicides, but what percentage of suicides are gun related.
minus-squareBad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 days agoIt’s never one way. It’s not like owning a gun is driving people to suicide. It’s intersectionality that drives higher numbers.
minus-squarebillwashere@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 days agoYou’re absolutely right. Owning the gun gives them the opportunity that wouldn’t exist as easily otherwise. And just for the record I’m not anti-gun.
Not really, suicide is historically just under half of all gun deaths. But your point stands!
It hasn’t been under half in ages. In 2023 it was 58% in the US and in some areas it’s noticeably more
Haven’t looked at numbers for 4-5 years, and holy shit did it flip around 2022-2023. Last I saw was 43-48%.
Anyone want to see for themselves, this is a solid search:
“cdc gun deaths”
Plenty of data from solid sources to back treesquid. Thanks for getting me up to date! I was quite ignorant.
What do you mean, “not really”? Is there a single type of gun-related death that is more common? Because OP is saying “the most common,” not “the majority”.
Turns out now it’s also the majority
I think you missed the point. Not what percentage of gun deaths are suicides, but what percentage of suicides are gun related.
It’s never one way. It’s not like owning a gun is driving people to suicide. It’s intersectionality that drives higher numbers.
You’re absolutely right. Owning the gun gives them the opportunity that wouldn’t exist as easily otherwise. And just for the record I’m not anti-gun.