For context, I (23M) live in the United States. In Ohio. A bit concerned about privacy because of the whole Nazi problem and the fact that I live in an abusive household.
I’ve been working on myself a lot recently and realized that I can’t do this alone anymore (or rely on Internet strangers to talk about my issues). I feel like I finally have the strength to ask for help in the real world. I’ve just never done this before. What’s it like? Is it warm and fuzzy, or cold and analytical? (Does it feel like someone is providing care and comfort, or is it more like an emotionally detached scientist meticulously studying you and scribbling down notes while mumbling “Hmm, I see, I see” while you yap at them?) Do you start to see results right away, or are things slow at first? How much stuff is recorded in a database that other systems can look up?
You’re allowed to decide a therapist isn’t a good fit for you and go for a new one. You should be aiming for a therapist you feel you can trust.
Therapy is mostly just awkward at first. It begins with learning to talk about how you’re feeling, and from there it’s largely just being gently nudged in different directions.
Results are often slow, but sometimes you have breakthroughs. Different types of therapy have different speeds though, and they’ll feel different too.
Personally my therapist doesn’t write much down specifically so that nothing can be subpoenaed. She told me that from the start. You’re allowed to ask about it and if they get mad you can thank them for their time and find someone else.
You should also know that certain diagnosis can be used against you. Example of pilots licensing with the FAA can be jeopardized with a depression diagnosis for instance. Which isn’t to say don’t be forth coming, just balance that against risks.
https://psychcentral.com/depression/faa-still-stigmatizes-depression-mental-illness
Do you start to see results right away, or are things slow at first?
It’s slow. Super slow. I have questioned the efficacy multiple times, but still after months of hard work on my part there was some progress. It was hard to see but there was some progress.
What’s it like? Is it warm and fuzzy, or cold and analytical?
It’s not warm. It’s not fuzzy. It’s not cold, and it’s not analytical.
There will be a lot of empathy, and just like medicine, that has a bitter taste, there will be pain, but it will be good for you. Best description I could provide is a scenerio where you need to perform a surgery on yourself but the best surgeons of the world have come up with a procedure to save you but they are on the phone. You can’t put yourself under anesthesia, but you have time to learn how to be a surgeon by practising on yourself.
The work happens entirely outside therapy. Therapy is just a method to give you another way of thinking about certain scenarios that you can apply in the future to get out of the train of thoughts that made you feel like going to therapy in the first place. So more akin of picking up a book from the library, you still have to read it yourself.
This is very boiled down, but ultimately what I feel about therapy. I’ve been in and out of therapy for half a decade and are only now seeing benefits from it, and that mostly is due to me having the wrong idea about what therapy provides.
Different therapy forms give different tools but if you aren’t on the hunt for a specific one you’ll likely end up with CBT which fits my description the most. In VERY tough terms, if you have a good listener in your close circles you can talk to about anything it’ll come close to what CBT offers.
You are never stuck with a particular therapist. Finding the right therapist for you is critical. If one isn’t working out, you need to switch. A good therapist will challenge you and provide specific things to work on outside of therapy. If they aren’t doing that, they aren’t a good therapist.
The first person you meet with might not be a match. Don’t get discouraged. You might have to meet multiple people. You’ll know when you feel ok with someone’s personality.
Multiple decades, geographies, and the retirement of a therapist as experience speaking.
Yeah that’s what happened the first time I went into therapy. Part of it was my fault for not really getting into the meaty details of my problems. But I was also dealing with a counselor-level therapist, which was someone I didn’t really need or want. I needed someone with better expertise and a broader range, so with Lyra, I found someone with a PhD and PsyD certifications and is a psychologist. Someone who has the credentials and tools to assist.
And she might not be perfect but still miles above from any session I’ve had with the counselor because she just wasn’t that helpful.
Generally speaking, it’s a conversation with someone who’s capable of guiding you to better choices and responses. How “warm and cuddly” that is depends on the therapist. Trying different therapists until you find someone youre truly comfortable with is part of it all.
How quickly it “starts to work” is entirely dependent on a) How honest you are, b) how open you are to outside perspectives, and c) how much baggage you’ve got to unpack.
As an adult, you should be fully protected by doctor-patient confidentiality and HIPAA unless youre threatening yourself or others. There are very clear benchmarks for that, but ymmv depending on location. Im not from Ohio so 🤷♂️
If youre on the queer or autistic/adhd spectrums, try to find someone who specializes in that. They’ll know how to help you without putting you at risk.
And ALWAYS avoid free counselors. Theyre usually tied to religious charities and will steer you toward their perspectives, or put you at risk for being queer etc. Just stay away. It’s like any other trade, if theyre worth it, pay them.
How quickly it “starts to work” is entirely dependent on a) How honest you are, b) how open you are to outside perspectives, and c) how much baggage you’ve got to unpack.
More caveats to this…other things I’ve found…
- If you don’t know what specific issue you need to work on, it may not even “work” at all. You’ll need to introspect and research and /or even seek others’ input if you don’t know already.
- A lot of therapist I’ve come across, especially in online organizations, seem keen on using unstructured talk therapy. It can be great for basic validation, but not if you have more significant and complex issues. If you know your specific issue, it might help to research what kind of therapy modality works best for it. Then, look for therapists who use said modality and who have treated said condition.
I learned these things the hard way.
I think your first point isn’t an issue with a really good therapist, but I’ve had therapists who needed that level of detail from me. With my current one, I told him the symptoms I have that I want to go away and he’s been tackling it from all sides so we can find the issues together (and it’s working well). I do agree with your second point, but many therapists advertise the things they specialize in like anxiety, identity issues, sexual issues, etc. I went based off this and found who I needed without much issue.
Glad it’s working for you! I’m seeing two therapists concurrently right now (“cheating” on my old therapist with a side hustle lmao) until the end of the year because I’ve met my deductible. Then I’m gonna figure out who I want to drop.
I have appreciated my old therapist for getting me through a crisis, but I’ve just stagnated and don’t feel like I’m getting enough direction and guidance and specific things to help me. Her therapy style is more “big picture” and generalized if that makes sense, without giving me a lot of specific techniques to help me.
My work has threatened to fire me if I can’t get my shit together so I really want to make more progress.
The new one wants me to work through an extensive DBT workbook over time that gives very specific techniques to use. Then each session we kind of talk about my week and go over what I think worked and didn’t work in the book. Her input is not overly substantial, but I do like how the book can give me more direct techniques and potentially more progress idk.
So I’m considering dropping my old therapist but I feel some type of way about it.
Idk sorry you probably don’t care about me blabbering on lol.
Is what you’re describing CBT or…? There are so many kinds of therapy, every time I get to the “which one do I need” stage my anxiety takes over and I just have to shut the whole project down and it sits on the back burner for another set of months.
I had this issue and I got over it by searching for people who specialize in ADHD and didn’t worry about the type of therapy they offered. Most of them are trained in different types of therapy and will help you find what works for you. Don’t be afraid to ask lots of questions. Also remember don’t feel guilty if their type of therapy doesn’t work for you. They can handle you leaving because the relationship isn’t working for you and most good therapists will even recommend colleagues. I put this on the back burner for a long time, but it changed my life more than the meds did once I started.
Idk im not a therapist, sorry =/
Well…if you have anxiety, CBT is supposed to be the primary therapy modality for that lol.
What specific issue are you looking to address? If you figure that out, you can find out which therapy modalities are shown to work best for it.
You are over thinking it. Just go.
Don’t lie or give therapists any run-arounds. They’ll know and while they can’t like penalize you for it, they could smell the bullshit and may call you out on it.
You need to open yourself up a lot. Not immediately, but in time. Therapy is about coming to clarity about your issues. You may hear things you won’t like. You may hear things that may get you emotional. That’s part of the process. The sooner you come to those truths and face them, the better off you’ll be, because you’ll figure ways in how to handle them.
Talking about self-harm and abuse to others may force a therapist to commit you into emergency self-care. Meaning they’ll reach out to emergency services to have to come get you if they feel you’re a threat to yourself or others.
Have a clear objective and a clear goal for you and the therapist to work on.
Oh and personal advice, if you do video-chat or anything with audio. Do yourself a favor and grab the audacity audio software, then figure a way to record everything a therapist has said to you to listen to as many times as needed.
Talking about self-harm and abuse to others may force a therapist to commit you into emergency self-care. Meaning they’ll reach out to emergency services to have to come get you if they feel you’re a threat to yourself or others.
What if it’s other people who may be a threat to me? Could they send the cops to my house if I talk about the fact that a couple of my family members tortured and killed pets and I repeatedly overheard them talking about their fantasies of mass murder, genocide, and their nonchalant willingness to kill me?
As you can see, I have very good reasons for being in therapy.
Some people are “mandated reporters” meaning that if they learn of crimes /danger to a child or other vulnerable person, they are legally required to report it. The specifics vary by jurisdiction.
If you’re concerned, then during your first session ask about their policies for information recording, storage, and reporting. I always ask and they never seem surprised by the question.
They won’t send cops to your house. They’ll have the best advice for how to navigate that.
They’ll probably advise speaking to authorities. And a therapist could be a good resource of information. Because it’ll be on some record.
I have started and stopped therapy a zillion times before. People would always tell me “go to therapy”. It’s kind of insulting, honestly, as if it was some magic cure all way to dismiss me.
What I’ve found is that therapy doesn’t help if you don’t have a specific enough problem to work on!! So people would always tell me “go to therapy” and I couldn’t figure out wtf I was supposed to work on there so the therapists didn’t focus on anything helpful either.
BUT I feel like I’ve just finally discovered a specific thing I want to work on after years and years of this back and forth BS. So I researched a therapist that is said to use a specific therapy modality to treat my specific problem. We’ll see how it goes with her.
ALSO…it has been frustrating to me, but I’ve found that most therapists I’ve come across are just simply “talk therapists”. There is no real goal other than giving you validation and some general advice and vague concepts and techniques. This can be great for people…but for me it just hasn’t been helpful enough. It just doesn’t give me solid enough direction. But maybe a talk therapist is what you need…who knows?
I realize these don’t answer your questions directly, but I figured I’d share what I learned to hope if might help you. Best of luck.
Different therapists may treat you differently. They should be very receptive to your needs on that. Ask them to treat you how you want. It’s important that you feel they’re being honest with you.
Result time depends on you. For example you may partly need validation that you are in fact, doing something about your problems and that thought can kick start it. Some things come in the first week. But you’ll also hit the limit of plasticity in the brain where some things are just going to take 6 weeks or several months of dedicated effort to see results.
First of all, different titles (e.g. psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker, counsellor, etc.) require different levels/types of education and experience and you should be able to look up whether they’re in good standing with your state/provincial/federally regulated organizations. So you can look up how long they’ve been practicing, and what qualifications they have.
Second of all, it’s common to try several before you find someone that’s a good fit. It might take a few sessions before you decide whether it’s a match.
Thirdly, be wary of anyone that seems to be asking leading questions or giving you advice on what to do. A good therapist will help you build the skills you need to come to your own decisions. No one knows your life better than you do and it’s their job to pass along the appropriate interpretation of their training on to you. They aren’t there to pass judgement on you, your life, or the people/relationships in your life.
Lastly, I wish you all the best. It took me a long time to find my current therapist and it’s been life changing. I learned a lot along the way, and I hope your journey brings you what you need.
Also the road to getting to that helpful therapist may be long, short, bumpy, or smooth, but is a journey worth taking and a rewarding process even if you have bad experiences with individual therapists not getting you, as weird as that is to say.
Absolutely.
I learned the hard way that just because someone is a therapist, it doesn’t mean they have all the answers. Makes me very grateful for all the good ones I met along the way ❤️
Random thoughts in no order.
I started therapy way late in life. I wasn’t against bit in general, I just thought I was too stubborn and private to get anything out of it. Good for you starting earlier than I did.
It started out awkward but I realized this was up to me if i wanted to get any thing out of it. This person went through a lot of trouble to be in a position to help me and I could either just trust that, or I should stop wasting her time and my money.
I got lucky and found someone I could connect to on my first try. My wife had to go through a few till she got someone she felt good about. Don’t feel bad if you dont find a connection with the first few you go to. This is important enough to get right. Do a session or two till you find someone you can be open and honest with.
The one I ended up seeing for a few years was significantly younger than me but we had a couple of big things in common so it worked really well.
Its like seeing a doctor, be honest. They cant help you if you don’t tell them what’s wrong. Doctors and therapists you tell everything to, cops you say nothing to. Everyone else is a case by case thing.
I can only speak from my experience but sessions were just talking and having conversation about what was going on in my head and life. Sometimes she’d suggest a book or something, but mostly she’s ask a few questions and let me work out what was up. Like, she knew the questions to ask to get me thinking about untangling my knots. It wasn’t her making notes about my problems and giving me solutions. Though she did have a few exercises to suggest I do that helped as well.
Once I let my ego or whatever go and started being honest with her and myself, I started feeling better pretty quick. Thats not to say my problems were solved or I had shit figured out, just that I felt like I was actually doing something about it. And that felt good. Like there was a better way to do things if I put in the work to relearn some habits and understand why I did things one way instead of another.
Good luck with this.
Everything @[email protected] said. For me I used a website to book 6 consultations with different therapists (15 minutes each) to figure out who I like that could work with my insurance, too. Having quick chats helped me figure out who was good for me and I’ve been seeing them ever since.
That is interesting! What is your way to figure out which therapist is a good fit in just 15 minutes?
I shared ahead of time some of the things I wanted to work on. They discussed with me their approach to therapy. It was quick to shorten the list by comparing how easy they were to talk to, and how much I felt heard when talking to them.
Thanks 🙏



