I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don’t agree with murdering people.
Look! Carefully curated pictures that help tell the chosen narrative!
This is as bad a a the bullshit man-on-the-street videos where they edit out all the ones that make valid opposing point. Want democrats to look stupid? Interview 100 people and only show the small handful of them that said dumb shit.
What’s funny and a bit of a bummer, is that you don’t know how funny everyone thinks it is when you share dumb shit like thinks.
Also, you’re here proving every single point against .ml.
So there were groups of a certain type of people in a country so bomb and murder the entire civilian populations of cities? Russia has fascist leadership, do you think we should blow up Moscow? Trump is a fascist, should we bomb NYC? Your logic is crap.
The US knew it could pull Russia into war by pushing for Ukrainian NATO membership, a membership they were never going to honor. By NATO’s own admission Ukraine is too corrupt for membership
Is Russia not big boy enough to make decisions on its own? They had to go to war with someone because of a threat of a country next to them joining NATO even though there was no hope to join nato? Maybe Russia should get their shit together then. Ukraine was part of NATO partners for peace in the early 90s. They’ve wanted to be part of NATO. Pretending Russia was forced into it is ridiculous.
No, no, it’s only untrustworthy American propaganda when it challenges their world view. Right now it’s a series of cherry-picked, possibly altered snips designed to push the fascists narrative, so it’s great.
Also, everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal.
When it comes up, which isn’t too often, I find I’m not really the model archetypal .ml user in outlook and have run afoul of a few people that took exception to that there, but that came in the form of angry comments about the thing I said and either the literal meaning of it or sometimes what they took it to mean, and for a forum that seems entirely appropriate. I was briefly banned from one of the communities there once too because I was accused of being a bot. Funnily enough I actually didn’t notice that and it had been overturned by the time found out there was a modlog and figured this out.
It would be hard for me to know obviously, but based on this experience, it doesn’t seem to me that they’re particularly ban-happy, particularly not instance wide. Kind of a bummer that happened to you. I’m fairly happy basing my account there and speaking my mind when I see fit. I do pick up the prevailing winds and can accurately presume what would and wouldn’t be taken well, but I don’t generally feel a need to self-censor or worry about bans.
My ban has been lifted now. Are you able to tell me how to find the modlog? I’d like to see what they actually banned me for. There was a point where I said I thought Russia should be broken up and given to it’s neighbors and they started responding by claiming I wanted nuclear war and posting pictures of Hitler. It was pretty over the top. I am wondering if that was what got me the ban. When I log in to my ml account I can’t find anything, no message or anything, that says what the ban was for.
I’m sure I remembered it being easier, but basically if you access the Lemmy instance in question via a browser rather than an app (might work on apps too but not mine), there’s a modlog link at the bottom of the page which shows you the mod activity generally, and then on that page you can filter by user and type the name of the user who’s modlog you’d like to see.
Thanks! It says I broke rule 1: “No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.” However I don’t see where I did that. Re-reading all the comments I don’t say anything like any of those.
Hmm yeh that’s definitely a pressure point issue there. I guess I do self-censor somewhat in that I know the type of reception that can be expected on that topic if not following the orthodoxy so unless I’m prepared to vigorously defend something I have to say on it, then I generally don’t say much on it, wouldn’t want to go in half-cocked or try to persuade any one of anything unless I was pretty sure it was a new insightful take that might be able to ride above the fray and bridge some fundamental disagreements.
From my perspective, it’s difficult to say how your comments exactly contravene this rule 1 as stated directly. But then you did go ahead and suggest Russia should be wiped off the map as part of your defence of why it isn’t reasonable to use corruption as a pretext to wipe another country off the map. I think suggesting that as a fait acompli conclusion and the only option was bound to raise a few eyebrows and while it doesn’t neatly explicitly fit the categories mentioned in rule 1, I guess one could say that that suggestion dances around a mixture of 3 of them. Maybe someone was trying to shoehorn the statement in to one of the existing rules as pretext.
Russia being wiped from the map doesn’t mean you kill all the people it just is the country and as I said it should be split up. I think there’s a difference between internal corruption and invading another country. I believe I was banned because someone simply didn’t agree with me and they could have simply just not responded and thumbs down if they didnt like what I said. But whatever though, the person that originally posted just wanted to know what was up with them and I was letting them know.
Edit: I have been on .ml since the Reddit evacuation/diaspora years ago. I have never been banned until just recently. Once I said mental retardation. It wasn’t directed at any particular person I wasn’t calling anyone specific a name however I understand that people consider that improper and I probably shouldn’t have said it. I’ll take it. This most recent one I think is a little ridiculous and I previously had not understood why people got so bent out of shape about the instance. Different folks different beliefs etc. At this point I’m going to abandon that instance though because I can’t voice an opinion. So just going to move on
Oh, hi, it’s Mr Asymmetric Demands for Proof again!
How about for a change, you go and dig about in the modlog instead of demanding everyone else does?
Provide a witness statement that you found out their .ml username and searched the modlog and found nothing, and you’ll lend your viewpoint a shred of credibility. But without that, all we have to go on is your weird demands for proof that behaviour we all know the .ml mods are renowned for actually happened again for the 1758th time.
If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I say that you argued with me for hours and hours yesterday after I said that you were as unnecessarily argumentative and bad at backing down as the person you were calling toxic. I recall finding it amusingly ironic. I remember you being particularly upset when I pointed out that calling me names wasn’t really proving me wrong. That’s when you started swearing at me in DMs and calling me things you weren’t prepared to call me in public.
I refuse to supply a link. Am I lying?
TL;DR Demanding proof that something that happens a lot happened again is reality denial masquerading as rationality.
More like flat earthers demanding proof that the world is round. Who disbelieves that .ml mods ban a lot of people for critisizing former communist countries?
So what, I get banned on any other ml and need to make another account? What does that benefit me? The conversation went just like it went here. Except I was called Hitler. To be fair, after being called Hitler I called someone else Hegseth.
No, I’m not saying you’re lying, I’m asking for context and proof. It’s hard to fake mod logs, but I could say .world banned me for saying Hitler was evil on another account.
Trust me, I know .ml is not great. YePowerTrippingBastards has proof.
My name is the same there, you can look. I did not use any slur in the thread I was banned in. I previously had said something was retarded in another thread and they got hot an bothered but that was not in that thread. The only name I called someone was a fascist after he called me a fascist.
It’s the same username, just on .ml. They’re just really obnoxious, the sort who goes down fighting about being allowed to say slurs while pretending it’s about some higher principle.
I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don’t agree with murdering people.
That’s because they think Ukrainians are Nazis because Putin said so.
The entire worlds media saw them as the nazis they are before the war
Ok buddy
Liberals are always against every war except the current one
Look! Carefully curated pictures that help tell the chosen narrative!
This is as bad a a the bullshit man-on-the-street videos where they edit out all the ones that make valid opposing point. Want democrats to look stupid? Interview 100 people and only show the small handful of them that said dumb shit.
What’s funny and a bit of a bummer, is that you don’t know how funny everyone thinks it is when you share dumb shit like thinks.
Also, you’re here proving every single point against .ml.
So there were groups of a certain type of people in a country so bomb and murder the entire civilian populations of cities? Russia has fascist leadership, do you think we should blow up Moscow? Trump is a fascist, should we bomb NYC? Your logic is crap.
The US knew it could pull Russia into war by pushing for Ukrainian NATO membership, a membership they were never going to honor. By NATO’s own admission Ukraine is too corrupt for membership
Is Russia not big boy enough to make decisions on its own? They had to go to war with someone because of a threat of a country next to them joining NATO even though there was no hope to join nato? Maybe Russia should get their shit together then. Ukraine was part of NATO partners for peace in the early 90s. They’ve wanted to be part of NATO. Pretending Russia was forced into it is ridiculous.
Come back after the war is over so you can pretend you were against the entire war the whole time
This is an incredibly entertaining reach you’re attempting here. Hilarious! Love it!!
Funny how you always manage to have shit takes no matter the thread
Just because you’ve bought all of the pro NATO, pro war, imperialism propaganda doesn’t mean that it’s a shit take.
Isn’t all that from the untrustworthy western propaganda machine?
No, no, it’s only untrustworthy American propaganda when it challenges their world view. Right now it’s a series of cherry-picked, possibly altered snips designed to push the fascists narrative, so it’s great.
Also, everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal.
I’m using Western sources that liberals claim don’t exist
And a “3-day special military operation” is an appropriate way to “de-nazify” Ukraine, or does it look more like a land grab?
It looks like the US wanted a war to feed the mic and got one
That’s weird, to everyone else it looks like Russia wanted a war to feed it’s mic and created one
The US is the only country with an industry specifically for war
Hey look! Here’s one now!
Welp, that feels like a red flag. Thanks for the info.
You don’t have a banned tag and there is nothing in the mod logs? What do you mean you were banned?
This is an alt, they said elsewhere. They were banned on their .ml account.
When it comes up, which isn’t too often, I find I’m not really the model archetypal .ml user in outlook and have run afoul of a few people that took exception to that there, but that came in the form of angry comments about the thing I said and either the literal meaning of it or sometimes what they took it to mean, and for a forum that seems entirely appropriate. I was briefly banned from one of the communities there once too because I was accused of being a bot. Funnily enough I actually didn’t notice that and it had been overturned by the time found out there was a modlog and figured this out.
It would be hard for me to know obviously, but based on this experience, it doesn’t seem to me that they’re particularly ban-happy, particularly not instance wide. Kind of a bummer that happened to you. I’m fairly happy basing my account there and speaking my mind when I see fit. I do pick up the prevailing winds and can accurately presume what would and wouldn’t be taken well, but I don’t generally feel a need to self-censor or worry about bans.
My ban has been lifted now. Are you able to tell me how to find the modlog? I’d like to see what they actually banned me for. There was a point where I said I thought Russia should be broken up and given to it’s neighbors and they started responding by claiming I wanted nuclear war and posting pictures of Hitler. It was pretty over the top. I am wondering if that was what got me the ban. When I log in to my ml account I can’t find anything, no message or anything, that says what the ban was for.
I’m sure I remembered it being easier, but basically if you access the Lemmy instance in question via a browser rather than an app (might work on apps too but not mine), there’s a modlog link at the bottom of the page which shows you the mod activity generally, and then on that page you can filter by user and type the name of the user who’s modlog you’d like to see.
Thanks! It says I broke rule 1: “No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.” However I don’t see where I did that. Re-reading all the comments I don’t say anything like any of those.
https://lemmy.ml/post/39952570
If someone sees where I did it I will admit that I was wrong. I’m not above admitting I’m wrong, but I don’t see it.
Hmm yeh that’s definitely a pressure point issue there. I guess I do self-censor somewhat in that I know the type of reception that can be expected on that topic if not following the orthodoxy so unless I’m prepared to vigorously defend something I have to say on it, then I generally don’t say much on it, wouldn’t want to go in half-cocked or try to persuade any one of anything unless I was pretty sure it was a new insightful take that might be able to ride above the fray and bridge some fundamental disagreements.
From my perspective, it’s difficult to say how your comments exactly contravene this rule 1 as stated directly. But then you did go ahead and suggest Russia should be wiped off the map as part of your defence of why it isn’t reasonable to use corruption as a pretext to wipe another country off the map. I think suggesting that as a fait acompli conclusion and the only option was bound to raise a few eyebrows and while it doesn’t neatly explicitly fit the categories mentioned in rule 1, I guess one could say that that suggestion dances around a mixture of 3 of them. Maybe someone was trying to shoehorn the statement in to one of the existing rules as pretext.
Russia being wiped from the map doesn’t mean you kill all the people it just is the country and as I said it should be split up. I think there’s a difference between internal corruption and invading another country. I believe I was banned because someone simply didn’t agree with me and they could have simply just not responded and thumbs down if they didnt like what I said. But whatever though, the person that originally posted just wanted to know what was up with them and I was letting them know.
Edit: I have been on .ml since the Reddit evacuation/diaspora years ago. I have never been banned until just recently. Once I said mental retardation. It wasn’t directed at any particular person I wasn’t calling anyone specific a name however I understand that people consider that improper and I probably shouldn’t have said it. I’ll take it. This most recent one I think is a little ridiculous and I previously had not understood why people got so bent out of shape about the instance. Different folks different beliefs etc. At this point I’m going to abandon that instance though because I can’t voice an opinion. So just going to move on
If you use web click the three dots > [username] moderation history on a comment
Give murdering a chance!
If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
No proof but instead saying asking for proof is a bad thing.
Oh, hi, it’s Mr Asymmetric Demands for Proof again!
How about for a change, you go and dig about in the modlog instead of demanding everyone else does?
Provide a witness statement that you found out their .ml username and searched the modlog and found nothing, and you’ll lend your viewpoint a shred of credibility. But without that, all we have to go on is your weird demands for proof that behaviour we all know the .ml mods are renowned for actually happened again for the 1758th time.
I say that you argued with me for hours and hours yesterday after I said that you were as unnecessarily argumentative and bad at backing down as the person you were calling toxic. I recall finding it amusingly ironic. I remember you being particularly upset when I pointed out that calling me names wasn’t really proving me wrong. That’s when you started swearing at me in DMs and calling me things you weren’t prepared to call me in public.
I refuse to supply a link. Am I lying?
TL;DR Demanding proof that something that happens a lot happened again is reality denial masquerading as rationality.
Flat earthers when told to have proof:
More like flat earthers demanding proof that the world is round. Who disbelieves that .ml mods ban a lot of people for critisizing former communist countries?
Weird, there’s no history in your mod log.
I’m banned so I am on another instance.
May we have the previous account for proof via mod logs?
So what, I get banned on any other ml and need to make another account? What does that benefit me? The conversation went just like it went here. Except I was called Hitler. To be fair, after being called Hitler I called someone else Hegseth.
No, I’m not saying you’re lying, I’m asking for context and proof. It’s hard to fake mod logs, but I could say .world banned me for saying Hitler was evil on another account.
Trust me, I know .ml is not great. YePowerTrippingBastards has proof.
My name is the same there, you can look. I did not use any slur in the thread I was banned in. I previously had said something was retarded in another thread and they got hot an bothered but that was not in that thread. The only name I called someone was a fascist after he called me a fascist.
Weird how he’s not giving us the alt, I’m sure there’s no reason to do that. Context and evidence is bad, I guess.
It’s the same username, just on .ml. They’re just really obnoxious, the sort who goes down fighting about being allowed to say slurs while pretending it’s about some higher principle.
Oh wow I’m so shocked that the person was banned for slurs and claims the mods were evil.
Where did I say mods were evil? Why is it so hard for people here to have a conversation without claiming other people said things they didn’t?