Is it bad takes, controversial posts, or something else?

  • phar@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 days ago

    Is Russia not big boy enough to make decisions on its own? They had to go to war with someone because of a threat of a country next to them joining NATO even though there was no hope to join nato? Maybe Russia should get their shit together then. Ukraine was part of NATO partners for peace in the early 90s. They’ve wanted to be part of NATO. Pretending Russia was forced into it is ridiculous.

    • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      24
      ·
      3 days ago

      Come back after the war is over so you can pretend you were against the entire war the whole time

      • phar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        20
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        I was against the war when it started I’m against the war now obviously. I will be against the war when it’s over. So I’m not really sure what you’re insinuating. Also I’m always against countries invading other countries on flimsy justification. Whether it’s the US and Iraq or Russia and Ukraine or Israel and palestine.

          • phar@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            I support the invading army to stop invading and go home. Keep their own soldiers alive as well, to go home and be with their families.

            • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              3 days ago

              And the Russians support Ukraine accept that the territory no longer belongs to them, and demilitarize so the millions of Ukrainians who’ve fled can come home and rebuild.

              That’s not supporting peace, “I want the other side to just give up” is not materially different than the most bloodthirsty warhawk’s position.

              • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                2 days ago

                Then what would you advocate in Gaza? I think Israel should absolutely just cease hostilities immediately and walk away from the conflict. Does that make me the most bloodthirsty warhawk? Such weird logic.

                • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Israel should be dissolved give full, democratic rights to Palestinians, including the ones they’ve kicked out, and return their homes. A two-state solution simply leaves Palestine as a rump-state controlled by Israel, as the PA has been. Apartheid in South Africa didn’t end with the colonizers taking all the best land, encircling the natives, and then giving them a state that is dependent on the white state.