I’ve seen two posts today of ICE agents arresting and terrorising ‘alleged’ US citizens. Where are the bearers of arms who bear arms in case of government tyranny? Is now the time to rise up and force back this disgraceful bullshit we’re seeing in the US?
No one wants to go in alone. That’s suicide.
Hard to find groups and organize sometimes.
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Living in the US South for the last 30 years, my experience has been that most of the "Don’t tread on me " crowd are very much only interested in protecting themselves and their families. That often means keeping your head low when trouble is about.
Additionally, ICE seems to have been keeping a low profile in areas where that mindset is most prevalent. Still active, but keeping their wits about them.
Sooner or later, though, ICE will fuck up, knock down the wrong door, and multiple people (both ICE and citizens) will catch a bad case of lead poisoning. And then things will get bad.
From what they’re doing it looks like they’re really hoping that would happen and the orange turd will have a reason to trigger a national emergency.
As a wise man once said: Things will have to get worse before they get better. The average American will need to suffer a lot more before they’re ready to think about taking their guns to protests, let alone using them.
Who wants to be the first to martyr themselves getting turned into Swiss cheese after firing the first shot? Is it you? Why not?
That is your answer.
Yeah this is spot on - Americans don’t have a sense of sacrifice for the community. Other countries have, in the past, shown that their population is ready to suffer for the benefit of their families and compatriots, even when knowing the risk of not coming back was almost certain. The US never did, and continues not to. Lots of words about freedom, no action. It’s been a year of your president shitting over your beloved constitution, and the only opposition has been memes.
Who wants to be the first to martyr themselves getting turned into Swiss cheese after firing the first shot?
Thomas Matthew Crooks tentatively raising his hand
Well it can’t be me because I don’t live in the US.
And over the years, I’ve heard the argument for bearing arms in case of government tyranny… And here we are, government agency kidnapping people off the street like my grandparents were in Poland.
The only people who really say that are paranoid psychotic fascists who have been stockpiling weapons for decades
They’re now in control
An yet you still don’t answer whether you would be the first person to pull a weapon and be turned into Swiss cheese. Regardless of how many people may or may not have weapons, only an extremely low % of people want to basically commit suicide by trying the above.
I’ve provided context to my question which I should’ve initially. I don’t think it’s relevant what I would personally do as the question is towards the argument for bearing arms (which I’ve heard a lot of) is in case of government tyranny. So let’s try to keep it within that context, however, it is a difficult question to answer from my perspective because I don’t live within gun culture. I believe what we see in US is heavily cultural. I may have a different view if I were born and raised in such a culture. But in short, the answer is most likely a no, regardless of how angry I am about it but then again…
I think most of them are doing the tyranny.
Oh, you mean all the armed cowards that want to disarm everyone they disagree with? Yeah. It was never about the government. It was always about their legal right to have the right to bear their minority killers.
Imagine the backlash the folks with the monopoly on violence would have if someone used violence against them.
A ton of the arms bearers don’t see anything wrong.
But what about those on the left? There are liberal guns owners. Where are they? No clue.
But what about those on the left?
Idk about the rest of y’all, but I’ve been volunteering with the Houston Chapter of Food Not Bombs at every opportunity.
There’s far fewer of us than cops, and we’re more focused on keeping our impoverished neighbors alive than getting in gunfights with the police.
But maybe that’ll change. I guess we’ll see.
The Nazis want violence, that way they can justify even worse acts. Not that they need justification, they’l just keep getting worse anyway.
Where are the bearers of arms who bear arms in case of government tyranny?
They’re the guys in the ICE uniforms, more often than not
Leftists don’t like guns… that’s why all the nutjobs have them. :/
Do a search for “Under no pretext…” and let me know what you get back.
Yes, I once posted that quote on Lemmy and used that to criticize the US Democrats’ Gun Policies and got downvoted lmao
That’s not true, and don’t make the mistake of conflating liberals and leftists.
