Generative “AI” data centers are gobbling up trillions of dollars in capital, not to mention heating up the planet like a microwave. As a result there’s a capacity crunch on memory production, shooting the prices for RAM sky high, over 100 percent in the last few months alone. Multiple stores are tired of adjusting the prices day to day, and won’t even display them. You find out how much it costs at checkout.

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    What? You might want to proof read that. The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

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      Many text editors today just load the whole file into RAM.

      been the case for decades

      One data point: emacs normally loads the whole file, unless you’re using the vlf package or similar.

      TECO and ed might not. Dunno.

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        Ed and sed don’t load the entire file in, but vim does. Not heard of TECO before 😄

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          TECO’s kinda-sorta emacs’s parent in sorta the same way that ed kinda-sorta is vi’s parent.

          I compiled and tried out a Linux port the other day due to a discussion on editors we were having on the Threadiverse, so was ready to mind. Similar interface to ed, also designed to run on teletypes.

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      The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

      Holy crap, and these people think they have right to talk about computers.

      You can have a 12G text file, logs, suppose, you are going to load the entire file into memory? And you think it’s normal?

      You might want to proof read that.

      I think you might want to put more effort into reading. This seems to be your weak side.

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          So in how many languages do you write, and in which of them do you write better than I sometimes do in English? Other than your first one.

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            So you bring out “this is my second language” after telling someone else “you might want to put more effort into reading”. No, that does not fly. You put “sorry, English is my second language” first. Lashing out like that is not a good look.

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            No, buddy. English is also not my first language and you write like shit. You’re also an asshole about it, have a victim complex and are a hypocrite. You’re just an all around shitty human being.

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        Holy crap, and these people think they have right to talk about computers.

        By your own logic, considering how you wrote your first comment, you should not have the right to talk at all

        just read it again lmao

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              No it’s not, it’s just you talking outta your ass ascribing your wishful interpretations to others. Your interpretation doesn’t obligate anyone other than yourself and your butt buddies.

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        Are you regularly opening up 12 gig log files in a text editor? Personally I’d use something like elasticsearch or less/grep for a local file.

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          It’s convenient to keep positions of many things, have marks, make comparisons. Ideally have multiple windows looking at the same file.

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        You can have a 12G text file, logs, suppose, you are going to load the entire file into memory?

        That’s actually done via journalctl today, most of the time. Which extracts the logs out from a database instead of a text file. It has some useful features, such as slicing a specific time interval from the logs.

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          Yes, that’s very nice when you are already storing that something in a database. I said “suppose”.

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        You can load a can’t stress how good planetary map into RAM wholly

        This is the part people are struggling with, because it’s probably 3 difference sentences mashed together, whether in your head, by your fingers or by an autocarrot, but regardless its completely incomprehensible as a result

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          Ah. OK. So I speak a language, where such constructions are a bit more normal, except commas and dashes are used more generously, and synthetic grammar helps.

          “You can fit a (can’t stress how good) planetary map into RAM wholly” might be a bit better? Anyway. OK, they’re struggling. They are choosing a weird way to inform me of what.

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            Side thoughts in the middle of sentences are definitely weird in written form. Heck they get messy in spoken form too! Some punctuation to help the reader understand what’s being communicated can go a long way, and in the format of a forum discussion where folks will quickly tap out a brain fart from a 5" slab of plastic and glass, when I see what appear to be multiple sentences mashed together into one incoherent one, I’ll generally assume it’s a writing error, because folks don’t proof read, they aren’t writing literature with multiple drafts. They’re just quickly jotting down a thought or two and somethimes errors compound with that level of quick communication

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              Side thoughts in the middle of sentences are definitely weird in written form.

              That depends on the language. Similarly to how different prosody doesn’t indicate different national character or whatever.

              In Russian that’s normal enough, in German much more. Considering some weak sides of the English language, might not work.

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                  Not better, it’s more of rules of punctuation and word order and such, in their normalized forms, being more fit for one use or another. At the expense of something.

                  Like those enormous sentences in German building up to unload like a cannon volley with one verb in the end. I also hate German capitalization. But it’s impressive how many floors an atom can have, so to say, in one literate German sentence. Perhaps their capitalization is too caused by necessity, I can’t bear trying to read Dutch, the eye has nothing to cling at.

                  Or in Russian there’s no strict word or sentence order, but playing with them one can give different flavors to whatever they are saying. Where you should use commas and where dashes (and sometimes semicolons), and where you can skip those and where you can’t, and whether you are giving a different intonation or meaning to your phrase or just making a mistake ; taken together - whether such a thing as “author’s individual punctuation” exists in Russian or not.

                  (All people actually writing well in Russian whom I know, BTW, make mistakes all the time by common rules and definitely have their own punctuation. And this is not much of a rebellion, they praise Zhukovsky - he made his own rules, they praise Pushkin - that punk not only made his own rules, he also used lots of Church Slavic not knowing the difference between that and archaic Russian, they praise Mayakovsky - well, that type wouldn’t object to any abuse of formal rules.)

                  I mean, I admit I often write in very bad English, but saying “you should proofread your texts” was absolutely useless, that person could just quote the specific place politely.