• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    there is no ethical duty to be vegan. so not being vegan is a valid choice. the choice to be vegan is amoral.

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          4 days ago

          You keep making claims without elaborating on them. If you just don’t want to talk about it, that’s cool.

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              3 days ago

              How could I agree or disagree if I have no reasoning for your position? You made the claim that veganism is amoral, that’s an uncommon and interesting position. I’m curious about your reasoning.

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                  I disagree with your line of logic then. Something doesn’t need to be a moral duty to be moral. It’s not a moral duty for a poor person to donate to charity, but being charitable is a moral act.

                  Similarly, you can probably point to edge cases where the following line of logic cannot be applied broadly due to people’s circumstances.

                  For me personally,

                  1. Livestock animals are sentient, they display a preference to live and be free from suffering and confinement.

                  2. I do not need to purchase animal products to be healthy and happy.

                  3. In the absence of necessity, intentionally confining, harming and killing animals is not morally justifiable.

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                    3 days ago

                    in the absence of necessity, intentionally confining, harming and killing animals

                    almost no one does that, whether they are vegan or not

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                    3 days ago

                    there are three categories: moral duty, amoral, and immoral. if we can’t agree on that, you are not qualified to discuss morality.