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  • Tinidril@midwest.social
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    15 hours ago

    I’m sympathetic to your argument, but ultimately they absolutely are fascist. If you doubt me, then to ask a Palestinian. There is very little that the Trump regime is doing that the Democrats weren’t doing less obnoxiously and on a much slower timescale.

    We can’t keep accepting the lesser evil indefinitely. When you brush off the serious issues in the Democratic party with language like “no saints” you make it look like that’s exactly what you intend for the country to do. I mean “politicians will be politicians”. That’s not convincing anymore.

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      7 hours ago

      If you doubt me, then to ask a Palestinian.

      Just to clarify this to others:

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      13 hours ago

      There is very little that the Trump regime is doing that the Democrats weren’t doing less obnoxiously and on a much slower timescale.

      That part is important. I hear you about “the lesser evil” but if you’re response to resisting a lesser evil results in a faster, accelerated evil then you have contributed to a much greater harm. If you doubt me, ask a Palestinian if they are better off with Democrats not having any power.

      • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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        6 hours ago

        If you doubt me, ask a Palestinian if they are better off with Democrats not having any power.

        Biden was in power when the genocide started and during most of it. He had the power to stop it and didn’t. So there’s your answer.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        3 hours ago

        To put it differently, if they are the proximate cause of the Trump presidency, then you are the ultimate cause. I throw up my hands at trying to decide which matters more.

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        5 hours ago

        That’s the part where I’m sympathetic to your argument. I think anyone not voting for Harris made a mistake. I also think the arguments people like you made for people to vote for Harris were really really bad and that you are enabling the Democrats to continue down a terrible path of failure.

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          1 hour ago

          I also think the arguments people like you made for people to vote for Harris were really really bad and that you are enabling the Democrats to continue down a terrible path of failure.

          The argument I made for people to vote for Harris was that this is exactly what will happen if Trump wins, and 3 months before an election is not the time to try to get a viable alternative. Harris sucked, her campaign was shit, but the alternative is running the predictable course.

          Now is an excellent time to work on a viable alternative, but saying “both are the same” is disingenuous, and is not actually putting an alternative forward.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          1 hour ago

          OP just said that under Trump the genocide is happening faster and you don’t consider that worse off?