On the one hand yeah sure, but on the other hand in the USA youre an accomplice if you didnt vote or if you wasted your vote on a 3rd party.
Vote for baddy, your fault. Vote for less baddy, youre propping up the system. Vote for good guy, you wasted your chance to vote against baddy. Dont vote, you wasted your chance yo vote against baddy.
Everyone gets the boot on the neck, everyone gets the blame, there are no winners
The US has needed rank choice voting since Nixon at least.
This includes people who give everyone shit for not voting for the “lesser” corruption. Accomplices all.
In some cases.
In other
I got the book 1984 for $1 on Kobo a couple months ago
Still haven’t read it. (Surely next year)
It’s a short, easy read…
Yeah, it’s your personal responsibility to vote for the “good” candidate, with voting for the “bad” candidate being an individual’s moral and mental failure as opposed to it being caused by shifting material conditions, crises or simply just failure of liberal political side to garner enough support or them targeting only the affluent middle-class intelligentsia.
Why don’t everyone just vote for the good guys, are they stupid?
In 2016 both Hillary and Trump had a lower than 50% approval rating and yet they were the frontrunners: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
Congress has a less than 50% approval rating and it’s made up of elected politicians: https://www.statista.com/statistics/207579/public-approval-rating-of-the-us-congress/
We don’t have a democracy, we have a system where you can only choose which representative for billionaires you dislike the least. They’re all corrupt, any that aren’t are quickly drowned out by well-funded opposition.
You are right. Americans are slaves, tricked into thinking their votes count. But people must understand the enemy is the corruption found by members of both parties. Democratic and Republican
That’s what I keep saying: Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom.
And the disease is that a majority of voting Americans are either morally bankrupt and gullible enough to overlook all that Trump did and said and elect him, or actively fascist.
And that’s why, when people tell me I need to “make space” for those people and give them an exit ramp, so that when Trump finally turns on them too, and they realize what they done did, the nation can heal and come back together, I say: fuck this shit.
I don’t want to make space for immoral morons and fascists. These people deserve what they’re about to get, and what they’ve inflicted on the rest of us who didn’t sell out, and they’ll never come back from the moral quagmire that made them think it’s a-okay to elect a fascist POTUS.
I think the argument to make space for them is more practical than compassionate. WTF are we going to do if we just refuse to speak to or have any dealings with 1/3 of the working age population. Are we relocating all Trump voters South of Virginia and splitting the Union here?
Setting aside our own authoritarian problems for a second, if you want to have a wealthy country that can oppose authoritarian regimes (like China and Russia), you need all 350 million of us. (And you need Europe, India, and democratic Asia on board, perhaps even some middle eastern countries, all people you may have philosophical differences with that you have to learn to work with).
My mom voted for Trump and her gov job is abt to be furloughed
Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom.
The problem is America , systemically not socially. The idiot Trump voters are likewise symptoms.
The sad part is many Americans simply think if you just get rid of Trump and his supporters that it would fix the problems with the country when in reality it perpetuates them by ignoring the underlying issues.
you can’t expect perfect results…
I’d take getting rid of Trump and his supporters. It WOULD fix the problems with the country right now
You can certainly aim for your best…
I’d take actually standing for something and not succeeding over standing for nothing and succeeding. It would fix the problems with the country permanently.
If I were in charge I’d ban every last Trump voter from ever voting again. It’s only immoral if you’re incorrect ™.
You were correct in the first half then you fell right off. Name a president that didn’t suck. You can’t, you won’t. This has nothing to do with Republican or Democratic being worst. BOTH are traitors to the American people.
I do not understand how “vote for the better option” could possibly not be the correct move. If you want to change the candidates we have in the general election, no strategy for voting within the general election will change that; you would need to vote in the primaries to get the legitimately good candidates into the general. This is once again voting for the best option. If you have another theory I would love to hear how you expect it to work.
There is a wide chasm between “suck” and “fascist”.
And it’s filled with slave owners, genociders, imperialists, and war criminals.
John Quincy Adams was pretty decent, as far as I’m aware.
Never ask a man his salary
Never ask a woman her age
Never ask what George Orwell was doing in Myanmar in the 1920s
He literally wrote a novel that was heavily inspired about his time in Myanmar.
You can kinda ask him yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Days
Set in British Burma during the waning days of empire, when Burma was ruled from Delhi as part of British India, the novel serves as “a portrait of the dark side of the British Raj.” At the centre of the novel is John Flory, “the lone and lacking individual trapped within a bigger system that is undermining the better side of human nature.”[1] The novel describes “both indigenous corruption and imperial bigotry” in a society where, “after all, natives were natives—interesting, no doubt, but finally…an inferior people”.[2]
To be clear, that last bit of that last sentence is meant to be read as hideously haughty and privileged… it is dripping with irony, a self-cariacature, as the novel showcases the craven nature of characters in all kinds of social positions, from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds.
The whole thing is meant as an unflinching critique of how colonialism ruins everyone involved.
I guess we could also maybe ask Orwell what he was doing in Spain in the 1930s, but at the time, he would again have difficulty telling you.
Turns out that when you join an internationalist anti fascist militia to go personally shoot fascists yourself, well, sometimes they shoot back, and sometimes they hit you in the neck.
… thankfully, writing exists.
I find it absolutely incredible that George Orwell, a man who has likely personally shot more fascists than probably anyone you’ll find on the internet… somehow doesn’t clear the ideological purity test these days.
And that is because Orwell, while literally shooting at fascists in Spain, also found himself as the target of a pro-Soviet, pro-Stalin smear campaign, which tried to paint him and his outfit as Trotskyists and also as fascists.
Apparently, this smear campaign remains quite influential, to this day.
Orwell wrote openly about the things he did throughout his life, both in casual letters and widely read short stories
He certainly wrote a version of it.
Tautologous
Kind of? Many of them, if not most, are also victims of the same system that indoctrinated them. Like an awful, evil feedback loop of victimization.
Not to say that makes it okay ofc, but all people are fallible and all can be cast as fools under the right circumstances, which is just a very important thing to remember at times like these.
Most people simply are cowards and fools.
Victims, yes, but also still cowards and fools.
How is this a shitpost?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
—Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951).
All according to plan so farmland can be bought up by large corporations and billionaires. They want to control and commodify every aspect of survival.
Ooh that’s a good one
How do you do that, specifically in the US?
Revolution. Rebellion in organized fashion
Rebellion in organized fashion
The fashion:
Bulletproof armor would be better than a frog suit
You can wear both.
I’d throw in the people who stand by and let Nazis take power. They enabled the steamrolling of human rights.
But oh right, OP is a skink.
