• PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
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    20 hours ago

    The right wing movement continues to grow. you can assist them in locking themselves away in their bubbles where their ideology will continue to grow and fester or you can help address the problem and start winning hearts and minds.

    There is no other way out of this mess

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        16 hours ago

        Someone has to help them see the contradictions within their own beliefs, if they don’t get there on their own. For the most part, I think the most likely candidates are people who were once like them (and there are social media accounts like this), since they’ll be more likely to listen to someone who they feel understands them. If people who have already recovered from that life aren’t available, then someone matching the qualities they wouldn’t reject in a friend is the next best thing. In other words, THIS is where allies are supposed to shine if they want to be doing something meaningful to help.

        At the earliest, those of us in one or more of their currently most hated marginalized groups can start stepping in once they’ve crossed the threshold from “this doesn’t feel right” to “how do I start connecting with others in a healthier way.” Allies should help them bridge that initial gap first, and then the tougher-skinned ones among their friends in marginalized groups can ideally join in. That’s how a functioning, healthy society should work. Instead of tunnel vision/pipelines and social bubbles, we need genuine healing and connection.

        As an aside, I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how preemptive (as opposed to reactive) social isolation is actually remarkably analogous to expecting someone in financial poverty to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It’s just that the problem is an emotional form of poverty instead of financial (or both). Some externalize the pain (hating/blaming group X), and some internalize it (any marginalized group that tries to be MAGA), and some do both (“own the libs!”) but all in all we’re talking about people trying to convince themselves they’re happy while also struggling to drown their own humanity.

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        20 hours ago

        By discussing their beliefs with them and not ridiculing them.

        By avoiding emotional inaccurate rhetoric and biased sources.

        By carefully deconstructing their beliefs without attacking them

        Not allowing yourself to be pulled off topic.

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          13 hours ago

          That kind of pie-in-the-sky happy happy optimism won’t work on MAGA. They are too far gone. Literally anything you say to them is a lie (in their mind). Every fact is “fake”. Every source is "Pfft…that’s what they want you believe*. Every survey is “biased” and every person who doesn’t agree with them is a “radical”.

          Your tips apply to regular debate, even to some degree with christian conservatives. But MAGA is legitimately a cult at that point.

          When they firmly believe that Charlie Kirk performed a miracle by preventing the bullet from killing people behind him, they aren’t a rational group anymore; they’re mentally ill.