You can’t win a game against people who aren’t following the rules. What you’re suggesting works when there’s a foundational understanding that is shared, otherwise they must be kicked out of the game (by society at large) until they agree to follow the rules.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a far-right conspirasist that believes Democrats eat blended up human babies or a far-left feminist that believes bullets and rockets are penis shaped to oppress the masses by flaunting the power of the white man to keep the patriarchy in power.
We teach this to children, everyone can play regardless of color, origin, or race, but as soon as any of the kids start biting or screaming in peoples ears, they’re not allowed to play with the rest. Its called consequences.
That kind of pie-in-the-sky happy happy optimism won’t work on MAGA. They are too far gone. Literally anything you say to them is a lie (in their mind). Every fact is “fake”. Every source is "Pfft…that’s what they want you believe*. Every survey is “biased” and every person who doesn’t agree with them is a “radical”.
Your tips apply to regular debate, even to some degree with christian conservatives. But MAGA is legitimately a cult at that point.
When they firmly believe that Charlie Kirk performed a miracle by preventing the bullet from killing people behind him, they aren’t a rational group anymore; they’re mentally ill.
By discussing their beliefs with them and not ridiculing them.
By avoiding emotional inaccurate rhetoric and biased sources.
By carefully deconstructing their beliefs without attacking them
Not allowing yourself to be pulled off topic.
You can’t win a game against people who aren’t following the rules. What you’re suggesting works when there’s a foundational understanding that is shared, otherwise they must be kicked out of the game (by society at large) until they agree to follow the rules.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a far-right conspirasist that believes Democrats eat blended up human babies or a far-left feminist that believes bullets and rockets are penis shaped to oppress the masses by flaunting the power of the white man to keep the patriarchy in power.
We teach this to children, everyone can play regardless of color, origin, or race, but as soon as any of the kids start biting or screaming in peoples ears, they’re not allowed to play with the rest. Its called consequences.
That kind of pie-in-the-sky happy happy optimism won’t work on MAGA. They are too far gone. Literally anything you say to them is a lie (in their mind). Every fact is “fake”. Every source is "Pfft…that’s what they want you believe*. Every survey is “biased” and every person who doesn’t agree with them is a “radical”.
Your tips apply to regular debate, even to some degree with christian conservatives. But MAGA is legitimately a cult at that point.
When they firmly believe that Charlie Kirk performed a miracle by preventing the bullet from killing people behind him, they aren’t a rational group anymore; they’re mentally ill.