You missed the part where they said, “No I don’t, but I’ll ruin your life if you teach it!”
It’s only taught in higher ed, so this clearly didn’t happen. /s
I hate humans. We’re so fucking stupid it hurts.
And people wonder why so many people hate being in public…
I wish it really did hurt to be stupid. Those suffering from it would be much more inclined to correct the condition rather than delighting in it like they do now.
9 hours old, +600 upvotes, no comments.🤔 And you came here for this lousy comment…
seems to be a federation issue for you, I see 90+ comments (reported by client, not counted), earliest from 9h ago
Wow which server are you in I only see 5 comments.
reddthat.com.
you should also see that when you click my name, if it doesn’t already show it on my name.to be fair, iirc it was only a total of 3 comment threads at the time, where two were started by lemmy.world users and one by a hexbear.net user. as those instances are on your instances block list, that would enough to hide the entire comment threads I believe.
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“Conservative Christian” is and oxymoron but having never read any Jesus, its easy to identify that way.
First of all you don’t become a conservative Christian by being willing to read. So lets imagine DeSantis misspoke and said “The only way to ensure that Trump can violate The Constitution and overthrow our democracy is to read the New Testament and understand it”
Here are some probable outcomes:
- They see that Jesus is a leftist and can no longer call themselves Christian, when asked their religion they say “none, atheiest”.
- They see that Jesus is a leftist and conclude that the bible was simply written by leftists and that it isn’t true.
- They see that Jesus has good ideas, unconsciously redefine what conservative means to them, and stay quiet until someone they considerd a friend angrily calles them a libtard for stating one of jesuses teachings in disagreement of something thet had repeated from facebook.
- They see that Jesus is a leftist, they trust in their lord choosing his love and reason over the hatred and fear of man and can no longer call themselves a conservative.
- They conclude that Pontius Pilate and the Roman government where the good guys and Jesus was an evil libtard who earned his crusofiction and they start worshoping Pilate instead.
- The whole thing goes over the readers head
- They strengthen their belief by ignoring parts that clearly don’t fit their belief, and twisting anything that can kind of fit their beliefs.
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What?
Can we make c/politicalmemes and keep this sort of content there? It’s clearly a point of division in the community, we should be more accommodating for apolitical folks.
There’s no such thing as ‘apolitical’. The very idea of leaving politics to our superior politicians is what brought us and keeps us in this state.
This is not at all a political issue however. This is about not being a trash human being. Being racist is not a political opinion, it’s spreading hatred in the world and being a waste of skin.
Sometimes there are comments that I wish I could upvote multiple times, this is one of them.
I’m not arguing for or against of what the post says, I’m only saying that the designated place for funny cat pictures is probably not the right place for a meaningful discussion, sharing opinions, education or anything else but funny cat pictures.
When i browse c/memes I want to see easily digestible posts that will make me exhale through my nose, not deep, thought provoking walls of text.
If you think this post is deep and thought provoking then I don’t know what to tell you. It just makes fun of american conservatives and that’s it. This post is literally just “conservatives dumb”, as easily digestible as I’ve ever seen.
Then c/politicalmemes would be a perfect place for conservatives and progressives to call each other dumb and let everyone else on c/memes enjoy their funny cats.
I’d rather not have a bunch of separate meme communities. I like varied content.
Then you could subscribe to both communities. Think of it as having a separate category for gay and straight porn, some people are into both, some into one or the other, some into neither and because it’s in its own category everyone can pick exactly what they want to see.
If porn was only categorised by gender and orientation that would be great, but it’s not. There’s a million obscure communities for every single aspect of every fetish, and there’s usually zero way to include everything but feet and piss. It takes so much effort to find something fresh because you have to intentionally look up skirts, or lesbian domination, or voyeurism or what have you.
Maybe something you’d like is in feet, because of a brief under the table socks on tease, and that’s just a tragedy because that’s just fine.
Ah yes, the political issue of education and racism.
Yes but where’s the meme? All I see is a smarmy quip, there’s no joke, there’s not even a picture. It’s just a screenshot of text.
Even if you agree with the subject matter, you have to admit this is terribly low effort and low quality as far as memes go.
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Yes?
What is political about critical race theory? Is math also political?
Is math also political?
Yes. Statistics for example gets politicized all the time, remember when Trump said not to monitor for covid because monitoring it will only find more cases?
Also, possibly the most classic example of misuse of statistics in politics is the assertion of “statistics show black people commit more crimes per capita than white people.” When in reality, black people in the West have much lower median incomes than white people due to their long history of facing marginalization and descrimination, and it’s income that is correlated to crime, not race. We know this because when you normalize for income, there is no difference in crime rates yet that fallacious statistic gets brought up by racists again and again to justify their racism.
Aw man but I have so many funny X-Men posts to make.
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It’s sad really. This post was the final straw for me. I’ll be unsubscribing. I saw the same thing happen dankmemes. Post after post of politically charged, right leaning nonsense. My tinfoil hat says it’s intentional to kill Lemmy, and honestly it’s working.
…right leaning?
Yes, this post when interpreted as ironic, is making fun of socialism and CRT. Regardless it is leveraging oft used conservative boogeymen buzzwords for a joke. It dilutes the original use of the words, and whether or not intended, degrades their meaning. It’s a very common tactic of fascism and hard right actors. It’s exactly what Trump did when assuming the ‘fake news’ moniker and repurposing it to attack media. This entire site has been circling the drain for some time, and the downvotes just prove none of you value actual discussion.
The point of the post couldn’t have gone any further over your head if it had wings
If you read what I’m saying, the intent matters not. It’s the use sarcastically or not in a joking way that plays right into right leaning agenda. But please keep attacking me.
The fact that it uses sarcasm and mentions CRT doesn’t automatically mean it’s right leaning. Left leaning people could find this meme funny.
Again, it’s their use in a joke that delivers the whole discussion around CRT into the shitter, enabling right wing agenda. They’re not out to win the argument, they’re out to muddy the waters.
So by that logic, we shouldn’t make any political jokes anymore? This is getting awfully close to censorship.
The discussion started in the shitter, it’s never not been in the shitter. Did you think that Chris Rufo was making some high minded philosophical point when he wrote about making everything CRT as a weapon?
I mean, intent matters a little at least, right? Like, I prefer to use the term progressive when describing myself and I found this meme to be a firm chuckle and not problematic. It’s saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts, which many on the right would actually oppose politically and ideologically.
So like, if the intent was to reframe CRT in a biblical light so as to show ethical inconsistency on the part of Republicans, and it works on a logical and a humourous level, what exactly is the problem?
It’s saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts…
I don’t think it’s even going that far. I interpreted it as the conservative throwing the term around glibly without any actual understanding of what it means, simply because they don’t like what is being said, and a perhaps a very tenuous connection.
Yeah. It was intentionally made into a boo phrase and thought terminating cliche. Chris Rufo has a lot to answer for, in poisoning the well of discourse in this country. Not that it wasn’t already pretty terrible, but an ocean of piss is no excuse to dump barrels of cyanide.
The only thing playing into the right wing agenda in this post, is you.
I’m going to take your response in good faith and tell you that it’s making fun of right wing people who are against critical race theory by using what is probably their own religion of Christianity to do it. To have Moses say what they’re doing and how ridiculous it sounds.
I understand that. You’re the first one to trust I have a point. Trolling from either side serves right wing agendas. It degrades the discussion. I know this is a meme thread, but this thread has been nonstop political garbage for about a month.
I feel like you might be ignoring the purpose of satirical content. IMO, it serves two purposes: the first is to entertain and consolidate people who already agree with the message, the second is to raise cognitive dissonance in those that disagree with the message by raising awareness of hypocrisy.
As someone who cut their teeth on 4chan and ended up harbouring some fairly bigoted views, political satire is a large part of why I eventually abandoned those views.
To write it off as ineffective or even counterproductive seems to me to be a gross misunderstanding of its purpose.
The right wing won’t return you the favor, you’re giving them too much credit. Facism didn’t lose to kindness in WW2.
Honestly, you may be right in that it serves right wing agendas but I have no idea since I’m not right wing. I do know they deserve to be made fun of regardless if they think it helps them or not. I feel that a lot of them are fascists, racists, trolls, etc. so it doesn’t really matter if we make fun of them because they’re pretty ingrained. I also don’t think it devalues CRT or makes anything normalized, we’re just making fun of hypocrites.
Comrade, what the fuck are you talking about?
I think you’re alienating your allies here. This is clearly intended to be left leaning, and you’re lumping OP with Trump and facists.
No. I’m saying OP is playing right into their hands, liberal or whatever they are.
Okay, so, I am reading what you’re saying, and I don’t really know how one could make a joke that isn’t, by your understanding, part of the conservative agenda.
And if that’s what you think, I am curious why you’re looking at memes at all.
There’s a universe of thing’s worth joking about, but this post just serves political agendas, mostly right wing ones, and isn’t funny. CRT has become such a punching bag it’s lost all meaning. I’ve had the experience of my (very different) field of study becoming a political football, and the end result was the field suffering for years afterwards. Those setbacks are due to the right wing of political discourse choosing to meme the subject and make it political. The very act of targeting it was the main transgression, but subsequent meming on both sides only dragged things down further.
So, telling people to not try and be funny, even those you agree with, is definitely alienating your allies. I hear what you’re saying, but I have also seen parents losing their ever loving shit at PTA meetings… And to say that everyone must treat those ignorant displays with quiet respect, because CRT was mentioned… Seems a bit beyond the pale.
What are you on and where can I get some
The downvotes only validate I’m right that this site is in the shitter. You just assume because the message is liberal, it doesn’t play into right leaning agendas.
“Am I out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong.”
The downvotes only validate I’m right
You’re not Galileo. To quote Carl Sagan:
“They laughed at Gallileo. They also laughed at Bozo the clown.”
The downvotes only validate I’m right
I would like you to explain your reasoning on this.
“I’m getting down voted so this site is terrible and everyone on it is an idiot. There is no chance that my position was interpreted incorrectly, I missed the point, or I am wrong - it’s obviously everyone else”.
The downvotes only validate I’m right
Now that’s some classic right wing cognitive dissonance.
just knowing that a website like The Onion exists musts be a perpetual nightmare for you
I think the meme is fairly clearly making fun of American conservative/fascist discourse. Like the whole watering down of any semblance of a working definition of CRT when referenced by right wing pundits and moral panic board meeting parents, where right wing people call every call to be somewhat decent human beings “CRT” or “wokism”, and then have no actual working meaning for those words except as something that seems left wing and makes them uncomfortable.
To be honest it sounds like you don’t want people to mock conservatives, and that’s a tough ask when they make it so easy.
Sort of. I’m saying mocking only lowers the overall dialogue into the shitter, which doesn’t serve the purpose you think. It may make you feel morally superior, but does nothing to fix the issue, and arguably further entrenches the two sides.
Well and now you’re inching up on “both sides” territory, which just makes me wonder if your outrage is even genuine.
I understand all the component words here and still have absolutely no understanding of how you can make your assertions so confidently this makes no sense.
just prove none of you value actual discussion.
This is a meme sub. Would be like me getting upset at people for posting Linux related questions under the Linux sub vs some tech sub or Windows sub.
There are proper places to have discussions and if you think a meme sub is one of them then you are going to have a bad time. Whether it plays into the hands of conservatives or not is another debate - but generally speaking I do not think making fun of their religion and views in this manner is something they can really weaponize. At some point they are likely to reach a tipping point where more and more people find them insufferable and start tuning them out. People can rarily keep using the same playbook to engage people over and over without them getting tired &/or fed up with it and them eventually.
A good number of us caught on to their grift early on, but en masse, people are slow and dumb. Sadly they need time to catch up to the latest scams and new mediums.
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Critical race theory, assuming you’re not a clown.
New copypasta dropped
Is that reply missing an /s or is the poster missing the point?
Pretty sure the guy just missed the point by a country mile
A post saying racists are idiots is right-leaning? What? Lol
Well, Biden says racist stuff all the time, so… I guess?
- It’s not right leaning
- You unsubbing is not going to kill Lemmy
- Or disappoint any of us.
Lemmy was already dying, just look at plots of active users since the Reddit API flap. It’s going down not up. The sooner it does, the sooner a stronger decentralized platform, or newer version of Lemmy, can take it’s place. It’s current iteration is a rickety Reddit clone that suffers from rolling defederation.
I didn’t claim Lemmy was or wasn’t dying. I said that you unsubbing wasn’t going to kill Lemmy.
I really doubt Lemmy is dying though. In much the same way Mastodon isn’t dead merely because the Twitter exodus stopped. It’ll come and go in waves, just like Mastodon I expect. Or maybe it’ll go back to pre-Reddit numbers, when it still wasn’t dead.
If Lemmy dies I’m going back to Reddit. Don’t act like Lemmy dying is going to be a win for the fediverse.
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Not necessarily. It might end up being another Voat.
Oh, yes please it’s absolutely dying. You should find somewhere new to post asap, this is not negotiable.
Please leave.
What’s right leaning about this exactly?
Right leaning?? This is quite the opposite, but yeah political either way
I wish my tinfoil hat could talk
It does, just not to you.
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