• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 hours ago

    It seems like most humans honestly are not that interested at all in things like history, the value of community, involvement with others, social and emotional support, and are generally just selfish living-perpetually-in-the-moment idiots that willfully ignore the implications of anything they do and endlessly play the victim.

    It’s honestly a drag to realize how many of our species continue to be backwards knuckle dragging slack-jawed yokels who get positively furious when anyone calls them out on how absolutely fucking stupid they are. How dare you call them stupid and hurt their feelings! It’s their right to be a an absolute fucking idiot and you’re the one out of line for calling attention to it! They couldn’t possibly try to not be a mendacious fucking moron! You’re the person who is wrong for noticing!

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      13 hours ago

      Well… Yeah, that’s just how empires collapse. Anti intellectualism isn’t normal, but it comes up historically

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      13 hours ago

      I think the capacity is there to function at a higher, pro-social level; but it is severely compromised by societal systems that at some point were shaped by scarcity and real world dangers but have just become obsolete and out of control. We’re living a traumatic legacy that we can’t shake and just keep dumping on successive generations

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        13 hours ago

        I’d like to believe that, but some people I have met who are not struggling for resources and had kind and loving families are still somehow just some selfish motherfuckers. I don’t know where they got that trauma from that made them want to hurt others so badly.

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          10 hours ago

          Of course we are all individually somewhere on a continuum of capacity. But I think that the overall system in which we live accounts for much of what you describe (see: messaging in our entertainment, commercials, social media, how they shape people). And also, perhaps that a kind environment like these people had is not a sufficient condition for pro social behavior, if it doesn’t teach them perspective building for instance; or exposure to, and legitimization of, alternate lifestyles and realities.

          idk. All this coexists with the inherent flaws of the human organism. Selfishness is one of our qualities. It’s biologically built it in. Ideally our environment nurtures the executive functions to override and temper it. But, again, a capacity being there is not a sufficient condition for it to emerge