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Chris Remington@beehaw.orgM to World News@beehaw.org · 4 days ago

Finland to criminalise Holocaust denial

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Finland to criminalise Holocaust denial

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Chris Remington@beehaw.orgM to World News@beehaw.org · 4 days ago
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The law is expected to take effect this autumn.
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    Gazans civilians are absolutely being targeted

    See lavender. And the SA report

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      Why do you think Israel didn’t wipe out the Gazan population already?

      Let me present to you for the third time…

      If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but cannot.

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        Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it truth. You’re entitled to your opinion of the facts, but facts are facts.

        Stop arguing the facts of Genocide that is being conducted with your opinion if if it is. Drop the conversation and move on.

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          Show me the counter facts then rather than ad hominem attacks.

          Genocide — the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

          https://www.britannica.com/topic/genocide

          I put it to you a fourth time: How come not even nearly the percentage of Holocaust deaths has occurred against Gazans? Do you think the IDF is that inept in their “targeting”?

          If you keep engaging but avoid the question (like a politician) then of course I will repeat the question.

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            the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

            • https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/03/israeli-public-figures-accuse-judiciary-of-ignoring-incitement-to-genocide-in-gaza

            • https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

            • https://www.mezan.org/public/en/post/46295/Genocide-Scholars-and-100-Palestinian-and-International-Civil-Society-Organisations-Call-on-Prosecutor-Khan-to-Issue-Arrest-Warrants,-Investigate-Israeli-Crimes-and-Intervene-to-Deter-Incitement-to-Commit-Genocide-in-Gaza

            • https://www.humanrightsnetwork.org/publications/genocide-in-gaza

            we conclude that Israel’s actions in and regarding Gaza since October 7, 2023, violate the Genocide Convention. Specifically, Israel has committed genocidal acts of killing, causing serious harm to, and inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians in Gaza


            • https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/12/19/extermination-and-acts-genocide/israel-deliberately-depriving-palestinians-gaza

            I refuse to compare tragedies with you. Israel is committing acts of genocide and inciting such. What was done in the past against them is not an excuse for what they are doing now to others. Scale is different, but a banana is a banana regardless of size.

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              Am not asking you to compare, am asking you to explain how come the IDF (not rogue individuals) systemically cannot eliminate Gazans the way Hamas declare they wish they could elimate Jews? Are you calling for Hamas to surrender and end the war?

              Do you think the IDF is that inept in their “targeting”?

              Likud have just as disgusting right wingers in their midst (including Bibi) as Hamas have and I am sure there are plenty of war crimes that they turn a blind eye to.

              That is not systemic genocide which is what OP is about. It is not just about scale. It is about intent. Nazi Germany rounded up civilians during peacetime and exterminated them.

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