Edut: saw a comment further down that it is a default deepseek response for censored content, so yeah a joke. People who don’t have that context aren’t going to get the joke.
Like it’s not just filled with fabricated events like tanks pureeing students, it completely misses the context and response to tell a weird “china bad and does evil stuff cuz they hate freedom” story.
The other weird part is that the big setpieces of the western narrative, like tank man getting run over by tanks headed to the square are so trivial to debunk, just look at the uncropped video, yet I have yet to see 1 lemmiter actually look at the evidence and develop a more nuanced understanding. I’ve even had them show me compilations of photos from the events and never stop to think “Huh, these pictures of gorily lynched cops, protesters shot in streets outside the square, and burned vehicles aren’t consistent with what I’ve been told, maybe I’ve been mislead?”
I just read the entire article you linked and it seems pretty inline with what I was taught about what happened in school. And it definitely doesn’t make me sympathetic to the PLA or the government.
Then your school did a better job of educating you than anyone talking about thousands of protesters getting ground into paste. Mine told me that tens of thousands of protesters were all blocked into the square, then tanks machinegunned them all down and ran them over, and the only picture to make it out of the event was Tank Man blocking the tanks from entering the square.
The point isn’t to make you sympathetic to the PLA, if you have a more nuanced understanding than “china killed 1000s of protestors because they fear and hate freedom”, you’re already ahead of 9/10 lemmitors, including the one I was responding to.
You can’t have a constructive discussion with someone whose analysis begins and ends with “china bad”, because they are incapable of actually engaging with the material beyond twisting any data into hostile evidence, and making up some if none is available.
Is this a reference I’m not getting? Otherwise, I feel like censorship of massacre is not moraly acceptable regardless of culture. I’ll leave this here so this doesn’t get mistaken for nationalism:
It’s by no means a comprehensive list, but more of a primer. We do not forget these kinds of things in the hope that we may prevent future occurrences.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, I’m not on board with that. Thanks for clarifying. I thought you were being sincere for a moment. This is good satire. Carry on, please.
Deepseek is pretty good tbh. The answers sometimes leave out information in a way that is misleading, but targeted follow up questions can clarify.
Like leaving out what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989?
You must be more respectful of all cultures and opinions.
The amount of people who don’t realize this is satire reminds me of old Reddit
Is it though? I really can’t tell.
Poe’s law has been working overtime recently.
Edut: saw a comment further down that it is a default deepseek response for censored content, so yeah a joke. People who don’t have that context aren’t going to get the joke.
It got me, for whatever that’s worth.
Not everybody has heard every joke, buddy.
In my opinion it should have been the politburo that was pureed under tank tracks and hosed down into the sewers instead of those students.
It really is so convenient, there are so many CPC members, but they all happen to be near a conveniently placed wall that is more than enough.
The western narrative about Tiananmen Square is basically orthogonal to the truth?
Like it’s not just filled with fabricated events like tanks pureeing students, it completely misses the context and response to tell a weird “china bad and does evil stuff cuz they hate freedom” story.
The other weird part is that the big setpieces of the western narrative, like tank man getting run over by tanks headed to the square are so trivial to debunk, just look at the uncropped video, yet I have yet to see 1 lemmiter actually look at the evidence and develop a more nuanced understanding. I’ve even had them show me compilations of photos from the events and never stop to think “Huh, these pictures of gorily lynched cops, protesters shot in streets outside the square, and burned vehicles aren’t consistent with what I’ve been told, maybe I’ve been mislead?”
I just read the entire article you linked and it seems pretty inline with what I was taught about what happened in school. And it definitely doesn’t make me sympathetic to the PLA or the government.
Then your school did a better job of educating you than anyone talking about thousands of protesters getting ground into paste. Mine told me that tens of thousands of protesters were all blocked into the square, then tanks machinegunned them all down and ran them over, and the only picture to make it out of the event was Tank Man blocking the tanks from entering the square.
The point isn’t to make you sympathetic to the PLA, if you have a more nuanced understanding than “china killed 1000s of protestors because they fear and hate freedom”, you’re already ahead of 9/10 lemmitors, including the one I was responding to.
You can’t have a constructive discussion with someone whose analysis begins and ends with “china bad”, because they are incapable of actually engaging with the material beyond twisting any data into hostile evidence, and making up some if none is available.
classic lemmy ml
Is this a reference I’m not getting? Otherwise, I feel like censorship of massacre is not moraly acceptable regardless of culture. I’ll leave this here so this doesn’t get mistaken for nationalism:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States
It’s by no means a comprehensive list, but more of a primer. We do not forget these kinds of things in the hope that we may prevent future occurrences.
It’s a fucking joke FFS. It’s the standard response from Deepseek.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, I’m not on board with that. Thanks for clarifying. I thought you were being sincere for a moment. This is good satire. Carry on, please.
Thank you, that provides context that was missing for the joke to land.
How dare they ask!
Huh, I used to make a joke about how there’s never been a “Bloody Monday” in history. I learn something new every day …
Ah dun wanna 😠
Are we calling the communist party of China and their history of genocide and general evil, some kind of culture now?
Can’t believe how hostile people are against nazis, we should have respected their cultural use of gas chambers.
Communism was never the problem, authoritarianism is the problem
The cpc is and has always been the definition of authoritarianism , and now it’s hyeprcapitalist authoritarianism.
You can get an uncensored local version running if you got the hardware at least
It censors 1989 China. If you ask it to not say the year, it will work