• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
      4311·
      4 个月前

      Harris actually got more votes than Biden in most of the key swing states. Can we stop this narrative of blaming anyone other than the tens of millions that actually picked Trump?

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
      3327·
      4 个月前

      The stick was actually running a soft right democrat to combat a far right candidate, the gag is blaming voters.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
          2414·
          4 个月前

          Well, the bigger picture in my comment is that the Democratic party will rip their nose off if it means not running a progressive candidate willing to stand firm in their progressive stances, and that choice between a soft right candidate and a far right candidate is like choosing between a piece of chocolate or the whole bar. What bigger picture are you referring to?

          • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
            2310·
            4 个月前

            [Gestures vaguely at goddamned everything] for starters.

            She might not give us all ponies and blowjobs, but literally none of this dystopian nightmare would be happening under Harris.

            • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
              1714·
              4 个月前

              Sure. But that’s not going to change the fact that she fucking lost because she was a terrible candidate for Trump and ran a Republican campaign. The voters are not responsible when both parties coronate their candidate in back rooms.

              • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
                178·
                4 个月前

                Yes the voters are responsible!

                It’s called making the most intelligent choice, seeing the bigger picture, and doing harm reduction. I am beyond sick of the blame shifting being done to justify people not taking this election seriously .

                The threat of Trump 2.0 was apparent and not even remotely a secret. if people didn’t see that or take that seriously, it is their fault.

                • illumrial@lemmy.world
                  104·
                  4 个月前

                  The problem is, unless you’re very wealthy, it’s obvious the current system we’re living under strips workers of their material needs. It’s easy as a populist to say, “I’m going to smash this system” and get a bunch of people who desperately need a way out to vote for you.

                  Harris unfortunately, and this is systematic with the DNC, is tied to the material interests of the capital class. There was only scolding but no vision of a materially beneficial future for Americans.

                  No talks of universal healthcare, universal pre k or going after big business. Hell, she was going to continue to genocide Palestinians.

                  I voted for her, but we’ve been fucked by both parties since I’ve been born. I want, nay need a leftist candidate who will break the system for us but I haven’t seen one yet.

                • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de
                  107·
                  4 个月前

                  Why is the democratic party not at fault for “not making the most intelligent choice”. You act like harris was set in stone. And that her stance on israel had to be set in stone. Or any of the other terrible policy and campaign choices that were made by the dems. The threat of trump 2.0 was apparent and not even remotely a secret. If the democrats didnt see that or take it seriously its their fault.

                • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
                  816·
                  4 个月前

                  Voters carry blame, but that does not make them responsible. The responsibility lies with the political parties.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
          94·
          4 个月前

          Ah yes, the “everything is just fine just look at this graph” picture

          And before anyone says anything: I voted for Harris. Just like I voted for Biden and Clinton and Obama and Obama and Kerry and Gore. The only ones of those who actually got into office were the ones telling us things would change.

          Don’t be mad that they ran a shitty campaign to convince a populous with a sixth grade reading level and defunded civics classes to figure out how to vote.

    • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
      1618·
      4 个月前

      Oh my God shut the fuck up unless fewer people voted Dem in swing states… which they didn’t. Stop refusing to address your addiction to moderation.

  • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    502·
    4 个月前

    Points at SCOTUS. Electoral College. Winner-Takes-All underrepresentation. 100 years legal slavery, 100 years racial segregation. 150 years gendered voting rights.

      • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        4 个月前

        It’s almost as though the oligarchs could afford the best lawyers and judges to write up “democratic” laws that favor them, would certainly explain everything dems/repubs have been working together to do for 50+ years while boomers are all like “Nothing to see here, too busy focusing on myself.”

  • selokichtli@lemmy.ml
    6·
    4 个月前

    I’ll be polite. That’s not an accurate repository of those 250 years; the second part us alright.

    • Txmyx@feddit.org
      11·
      4 个月前

      I like to blame capitalism for everything, too, but this has nothing to do with capitalism. Just the US Democracy not being a Democracy

  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
    1·
    4 个月前

    The average age of an empire is 250 years, now were going to find out what’s going to replace it.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    28·
    4 个月前

    Democracy is inherently tied to progress.

    I’m considering that progress on Earth will slow down or come to a halt in the long-term, thus taking away Democracy with it.

    I believe that Space Flight is the only viable option for long-term progress, and that it will bring Democracy with it. That is actually the major reason why i’m looking forward to Mars Settlement projects.