Puritans on Linux are a real menace. Every time someone calls an OS install image of 3-4gb “bloated” I want to scream uncontrollably. Not statically linking stuff is part of this cultural issue.

Flatpak might solves these issues in the long run. Of course the same people therefore hate it, because it’s “bloated” and “convoluted”.

<rant> How dare we have different versions of the same lib! Where will we end up, like MS Windows? Where I can boot up apps as old as myself? Outrageous! Not my precious mibibytes!). </rant>

This cat looks defeated, it just wants to be let alone. Look at the ears.

You can contribute to that.

Nee, das heißt ganz offensichtlich Haltbare Berg und Alpen Milch.

In the long run it more often than not is better to show them how to help themselves though. Let’s say they use Mint and want to install something they saw from ElementaryOS, so a new Flatpak repo: Of course in this moment I’d be done faster with their request for help sending them two commands to just paste, but showing them where they can add the new repo themselves and how this will make all the new apps pop up in their Software Store doesn’t just make them more independent and reassure them in trying things themselves, but will make it less likely for them to constantly ask you for help again.

And it makes more people stick with Linux, that’s always good.

That’s just wrong, the correct commands are always different. E.g. for journalctl to keep following the newest entries you need -f, while in dmesg you need -w for the very same feature. That’s not any more “the same” than it is the “same” to move your mouse around a differently organized GUI.

Writing in the CLI is comparable with moving the mouse, and remembering the appropriate commands of the specific tool comparable to know where to click on. However a proper GUI is immediately visible to be interacted with (and not abstract like most CLI arguments) and will convey function through form, while the function in the CLI is hidden behind help texts and man pages.

I do like working with the CLI a lot, but what you said was simply wrong.

Way more even. Just look at emulation on Android, you can play good damn Sekiro on it by now.

Even if they manage to take away our desktops, Smartphones become beautifully powerful and can be docked to TVs and all via USB-C easily.

I had a good connection back then (FTTH 100mbit, <5ms latency) and it worked like shit. There are WAY too many variables that can screw up this cloud gaming stuff, the whole concept is messed up.

But then the CLI wouldn’t be faster anymore and the whole argument most people keep bringing up falls apart.

Also those man pages aren’t even remotely written to be understandable by Linux novices most of the time…

Also, CLI is consistent across any distro…

This falsehood crashed so many devices and left so many beginners with error messages it isn’t even funny anymore.

I know what you mean, just beware: in lots of cases it’s not as universal (as in distro-independent) as some still think it is.

For people who want to get things done with their PC that isn’t inherently IT-related (like, doing office work or music production or anything else) and just need to do the occasional light sysadmin thing like setting up new drives to be auto-mounted somewhere, pointing to GUI tools is just so much better. And in many cases it is also safer (making your system fail on boot with a small typo in the fstab is painfully easy).

Nitrokey’s devices are also worth a look, they’re a European company based in Germany and really know their stuff. Their NitroWall routers run on Coreboot and come with either OPNsense or OpenWrt.

Dropping an extensive explanation and how-to is a meme.

Additionally it can screw up sometimes. There are known issues with it with OpenSuse, causing either defective repo settings (the detection of the physical media gets mangled) or even unbootable systems. I think this can also happen on some other distros, given Ventoy’s uncommon bootchain.

Given the unexplained blobs as well at least OpenSuse recommends not to use Ventoy.

I thought of Lunduke, but mental outlaw also went down the drain.

Your word in the Linux communities’ hardliners ears. The consistent rejection of isolation concepts seen in Flatpak or Snap by some people go completely beyond me.

It’s the other way around: Fortnite still doesn’t support Linux. Which is good given it contains rootkits.

Then you heard wrong, those are arguably outdated information (how finicky permissions are is rather subjective). And it’s only bloat if you ignore the advantages things like version-pinning offers.

You might confused the speed argument with Snap. Those are noticeably slow.

Why, Flatpak is nice.

It’s not just that your comparison is so far fetched it already disconnected, what you say is also plain wrong. You don’t give up anything in this constellation.