• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    With the republican party going full fascist yeah it’s probably a good idea not to vote for them.

    At any level much less the fuckin presidency.

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      3 months ago

      But that means voting for an genocidal imperialist who’d rather keep pushing that pro-capitalist agenda and sucking up to Fortune500 companies. ~Some leftist, probably (/s)

    • MindTraveller@lemmy.caOP
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      3 months ago

      Well that’s true. It’s just that anarchists prefer the centrist party over the openly fascist party, because we don’t want to live in a fourth reich.

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        3 months ago

        Anarchists prefer to not waste time by putting so much fucking energy into electoral politics. Vote, if you want (I’m not your Boss), but don’t spend sooo much time into electoralism.

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          3 months ago

          It’s a small amount of energy to materially affect the environment in which you expend real energy on your praxis of choice. If you’re not enthusiastically voting at least lesser evil, you’re hamstringing your own praxis.

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                3 months ago

                Look, I’m already gritting my teeth and doing what needs to be done to keep Trump out of office and now liberals want to loudly complain that I’m not enthusiastic enough about it. If anything short of enthusiastic support for another corporate dem will lead us into fascism, then it’s already fucking here.

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                  3 months ago

                  It literally is already fucking here and we need to stop it from getting more power. It has already taken over part of the government. You throwing up your hands and giving up is not helping this fight.

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            3 months ago

            I’m not talking about the act of voting itself. I’m talking about discussions, canvassing and campaigning for some lesser evil candidate.

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                  I’m confused as to what other people do with their time and money has to do with you. Your statement was that anarchists don’t want to spend the energy engaging with electorialism, other people engaging with it to the point of canvassing and donations doesn’t force you to. All you have to do is vote, and recommend others vote if it comes up.

        • MindTraveller@lemmy.caOP
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          3 months ago

          I’m going to be scrolling memes and shitposting either way because it’s how I relax. I think my fun should be socially conscious instead of only being about me. I should spend time doing good for others if it costs nothing.

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        I don’t know a single anarchist that ‘prefer the quietly fascist party over the openly fascist party’ most of them prefer to DA the military contractors that are party to the latest american-supplied genocide.

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          Well, now you know one. Kamala is firmly against Netanyahu’s genocide, and I think after she’s no longer reliant on Joe for her campaign money and connections, she’ll be a bit more active about her opinions. She’s a good candidate. The DNC is moving in a good direction. It’s time to apply some positive reinforcement so they keep doing the good thing.

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            3 months ago

            Kamala is firmly against Netanyahu’s genocide

            The American supplied genocide which was the explicit policy of the Biden regime she was a part of. The administration that repeatedly bypassed congress to supply genocidal settlers with ammunition. Got it.

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              If I waited for a candidate who’s perfect before I got invested, they would never come because the politicians would realise anarchists aren’t invested and don’t vote. I’m supporting an imperfect candidate who is better than anyone else we’ve ever gotten, because I’m hoping next time they choose someone even better.

              If you won’t reward your dog for doing a little trick, how’s it going to learn to do a big one?

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                If you won’t reward your dog for doing a little trick, how’s it going to learn to do a big one?

                The actual analogy here is that you’re rewarding your dog for not doing any tricks, and expecting me to be so impressed by your ability to train your dog that I also decide to feed them treats for doing nothing

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                  For a dog who’s been trained for 50 years to support genocide, not supporting genocide is a pretty impressive trick. And Kamala doesn’t support genocide. Doing nothing deserves a reward.

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      3 months ago

      The real left is much more like Europe than what the democrats do in America. Our Overton window has been rocketing right for 40 years and now apparently I’m an anarchist or something for wanting more from my government like actually taxing rich people and actually then using that money on healthcare education and housing, employment rights, and other social programs.

      Vote blue no matter who means we are always compromising to the center which means we are always moving more right. The very fact that we aren’t getting a primary and voting for basically a cop after years of acab has my skin crawling. Am I voting for her, yes. But to be told to shut up and be happy about it and having any other vocal opinions is absolutely horse shit.