I won’t rule out him stepping down until the convention is over. No one is “spreading” anything, his own party leadership are still talking about him to step down to varying degrees, that’s factual. Stopping people talking about it won’t change that.
I think you’re more uncomfortable with how this national conversation will put make it impossible to argue that Biden isn’t responsible for a democratic loss in November.
This is fundamentally the standard “people are saying…” classic propoganda engine that trump literally used for over 4 years straight.
Step 1: Trump and/or his team talks about <thing> without any basis, just remarking on it
Step 2: News cycles pick it up and remark about Trump remarking on it
Step 3: Trump now re-iterates the talking point but this time saying its in the news
Step 4: The news once again re-iterates it
At this point its so obfuscated in layers its hard to pick up the original source being “Trump just bullshitting about nothing” and then it becomes news
It’s such a tired and classic play its insane that people somehow eight years later are still falling for it.
Biden did a fucking press conference very clearly stating he is running, I don’t know how the fuck he can be more explicit that this isnt up for discussion, it’s happening, stop fucking spreading some form of implication it isnt. He so very clearly is who the democrats are pushing forward, everything else is propaganda bullshit to make people second guess.
This is fundamentally the standard “people are saying…” classic propoganda engine that trump literally used for over 4 years straight.
No. It’s not. Power player right-wing democrats in his own party are actually asking the question seriously. People who up to this point have been his strongest allies.
It’s not hypothetical, it’s real people in real positions of influence having the discusdion, regardless of whether Biden refuses to step aside.
Now please never try to make that argument again. You’ve been given direct evidence that it’s false, if you persist you’ll be deliberately lying. It’s not the same thing at all.
I’d recommend you actually read the very article and explicitly try and look for a genuine quote where an individual explicitly is quoted as saying Biden should drop out.
Note how everytime it’s a generalized paraphrase at not an actual quote.
And interestingly enough all the actual quotes are more along the lines of “He should be doing x”, or etc.
And even more so many articles capstone at the end with “when asked they re-affirmed support for biden”
The articles wiggle word their way just enough to subtly imply someone is saying he should drop, yet they can’t manage to find a single actual concrete quote of anyone actually saying it, which shouldn’t be that hard to do.
That should be a red flag for you that the article is being purposefully vague on purpose.
Stop falling for the bullshit. Actually read what the article says and look at the quotes, note the dissonance between the quotes and the paraphrasing…
I’d recommend you actually read the very article and explicitly try and look for a genuine quote where an individual explicitly is quoted as saying Biden should drop out.
No, you’re desperately trying to ignore why they are trying to be delicate; these are people who are close to Biden, and they understand that they need to try to persuade him to step down but also if he chooses not to they need to be able to try and drag his corpse over the line.
If Biden had their full support they wouldn’t be qualifying all their endorsements, they wouldn’t be phrasing it as “Whoever the candidate is I’ll support them.” They would be saying the discussion of his age is nonsense, but they’re not because they understand this is one thing they can’t just pretend isn’t a reality. They’re positioning themselves for both scenarios because there are closed door meetings about this topic.
And besides, other dems have been more explicit, including Adam Smith and Pat Ryan, both of whom did not soften the blow at all:
These are not fringey left dems, they’re right-wing, party establishment.
But yeah, I can see you’re not ever going to be honest about this, no matter how much evidence you’re shown. You’ve got some other agenda here besides a democratic win, and I don’t really care to know what it is honestly. Good bye.
Because if he runs he’s going to lose and our democracy will probably end?
Denial won’t save us.
He is running, thats just a fact. He did a press conference to make it abundantly clear he is very much running and has zero intention to not run.
This whole “should he run? will he? if he will run. What will he decide” shit is propaganda fundamentally.
Stop falling for it, and stop spreading it.
I won’t rule out him stepping down until the convention is over. No one is “spreading” anything, his own party leadership are still talking about him to step down to varying degrees, that’s factual. Stopping people talking about it won’t change that.
I think you’re more uncomfortable with how this national conversation will put make it impossible to argue that Biden isn’t responsible for a democratic loss in November.
This is fundamentally the standard “people are saying…” classic propoganda engine that trump literally used for over 4 years straight.
Step 1: Trump and/or his team talks about <thing> without any basis, just remarking on it Step 2: News cycles pick it up and remark about Trump remarking on it Step 3: Trump now re-iterates the talking point but this time saying its in the news Step 4: The news once again re-iterates it
At this point its so obfuscated in layers its hard to pick up the original source being “Trump just bullshitting about nothing” and then it becomes news
It’s such a tired and classic play its insane that people somehow eight years later are still falling for it.
Biden did a fucking press conference very clearly stating he is running, I don’t know how the fuck he can be more explicit that this isnt up for discussion, it’s happening, stop fucking spreading some form of implication it isnt. He so very clearly is who the democrats are pushing forward, everything else is propaganda bullshit to make people second guess.
No. It’s not. Power player right-wing democrats in his own party are actually asking the question seriously. People who up to this point have been his strongest allies.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/california-playbook/2024/07/08/pelosi-and-schiff-raise-questions-over-bidens-age-00166748
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/four-democrats-congress-call-biden-step-2024-race-rcna160625
It’s not hypothetical, it’s real people in real positions of influence having the discusdion, regardless of whether Biden refuses to step aside.
Now please never try to make that argument again. You’ve been given direct evidence that it’s false, if you persist you’ll be deliberately lying. It’s not the same thing at all.
I’d recommend you actually read the very article and explicitly try and look for a genuine quote where an individual explicitly is quoted as saying Biden should drop out.
Note how everytime it’s a generalized paraphrase at not an actual quote.
And interestingly enough all the actual quotes are more along the lines of “He should be doing x”, or etc.
And even more so many articles capstone at the end with “when asked they re-affirmed support for biden”
The articles wiggle word their way just enough to subtly imply someone is saying he should drop, yet they can’t manage to find a single actual concrete quote of anyone actually saying it, which shouldn’t be that hard to do.
That should be a red flag for you that the article is being purposefully vague on purpose.
Stop falling for the bullshit. Actually read what the article says and look at the quotes, note the dissonance between the quotes and the paraphrasing…
No, you’re desperately trying to ignore why they are trying to be delicate; these are people who are close to Biden, and they understand that they need to try to persuade him to step down but also if he chooses not to they need to be able to try and drag his corpse over the line.
If Biden had their full support they wouldn’t be qualifying all their endorsements, they wouldn’t be phrasing it as “Whoever the candidate is I’ll support them.” They would be saying the discussion of his age is nonsense, but they’re not because they understand this is one thing they can’t just pretend isn’t a reality. They’re positioning themselves for both scenarios because there are closed door meetings about this topic.
And besides, other dems have been more explicit, including Adam Smith and Pat Ryan, both of whom did not soften the blow at all:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-2024-race-democrats-who-want-him-to-step-aside/
These are not fringey left dems, they’re right-wing, party establishment.
But yeah, I can see you’re not ever going to be honest about this, no matter how much evidence you’re shown. You’ve got some other agenda here besides a democratic win, and I don’t really care to know what it is honestly. Good bye.