Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities existsting in their own spaces, barring illegal content. I am hoping that the new users are coming here with the intent to learn how this community works, before we try to remake the community we just left.

  • SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net
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    “No nazis or bigots” is a nice slogan, but if people turn off our brains and turn off our humanity and just start mindlessly chanting slogans that justify the punishing of our enemies, then there’s no difference between us and the typical German in 1938.

    It doesn’t take a lot to end up in a bad place if we think we’re purely good and in the right and our enemy is purely evil.

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        Are you familiar with the Salem witch trials, the werewolf trials in France in the 1500s and 1600s and the Satanic Panic of the late 80s and early 90s? Those people thought they were morally justified in anything they did against the accused because they were fighting against literal Satan.

        World War 2 ended 75 years ago. Virtually everyone who was a Nazi is dead of old age.

        So who are you stomping?

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          There are plenty of white supremacist fascists out there. People often call them nazis because we don’t give a shit about splitting hairs regarding if they are a member of the actual Nazi party or if they’re just closely related scum.

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          also funny that you only bring up horseshit things as your dodge with witches, werewolves and Satan, you know all not real, but Nazis and bigots are real so it seem a weird comparison

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      We’re not talking about punishing anyone, we just don’t want to hear or see their bigotry. They can have their space and we can choose not to interact with them.

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      There is a really, really big difference between “we want to kill you” and “we do not want to be killed by you”.

      Don’t tolerate fascists. However comfortable that centrist illusion is, you are signing your own death warrant and that of millions of others (most of whom will suffer the consequences of your actions long before they get around to the people who feel safe enough to argue that fascists must be tolerated).