This comic is kinda old already, but still stays relevant.
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I think these days it should be so that the Ukraine fish is larger than the others on the right side combined, including USA
Or increase the size a little and give him a big ass coral drone
Nation states dividing the working class against themselves is sad as fuck. Fuck every country, but double fuck countries that start wars of aggression. Russia and the USA.
No matter what, the Donald sucks.
comic strip.
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big divisive arguments in the thread
At some point, the “America and Russia are having sex” joke has fully exhausted itself.
It’s all just cope. Totally divorced from the historical moment. Millions of people dead. More slated to die in a hellish conflict with no clear end.
But, “Lolz what if they were giving each other BJs” is immortal.
It’s not really a joke at this point anymore though, just a statement
Yeah i think we’re past laughing.
Get ready for others also sucking off Russia soon if the AfD victory is indication of anything.
Do you like fishsticks?
I like putting them in my mouth.
-Donald Teump and Kanye West
Both. Its both
It is not like they do it of the goodness of their hearts. It is just a strategic decision for them (that might be what the comic also implies anyways…) We have seen how much they responded against Israel. Some like Germany infact went the other way.
Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s, yet we still pretend that they’re a massive threat so that we can continue buying aircraft carriers. Graphic should have USA fish about 10x bigger than Russia fish.
Also, needs Iran and China fishes.
… and the opposing fishes should be shown buying Russia’s oil with their frowny faces. “I can’t believe that you’re making me buy your oil, you are deplorable. Here’s 50 billion dollars. Jerk. You’re a jerk.”
Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s, yet we still pretend that they’re a massive threat
How big is Yemen’s economy compared to Saudi Arabia?
I don’t think comparing by nominal GDP is nearly as effective as GDP adjusted to PPP. Russia is an industrialized economy with a low nominal GDP but higher GDP by PPP, whereas California has a high nominal GDP but is much lower by PPP.
PPP
Purchasing Power Parity if anyone else didnt know.
Correct.
Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s, yet we still pretend that they’re a massive threat so that we can continue buying aircraft carriers. Graphic should have USA fish about 10x bigger than Russia fish.
The problem is that California uses US weapons that costs magnitudes more for at best marginal improvements over weapons used by both Russia and Ukraine that cost less than vodka by weight, and which US cannot feasibly produce for less than 10X price, so it kind of levels out. Throwing money at Ukraine to produce them is smart, but there’s only so many they can make.
Ukrainian here, glad someone understands. Russia is still the threat, and a very real threat to the whole Europe. No European country is ready for the war of drones - neither on the frontlines vs FPV (which we see repeatedly in European-Ukrainian trainings) and in the air vs reactive jet shaheds.
Like ffs just count the amount of antiair rockets you have in your country and check out the history of russian aerial attacks on Ukrainian cities. Its 200-300 shaheds every second day. Would your stocks last a week? Okay, two? USA is learning this in Iran, but they are on the other side of the world so they can take the L and move on.
USA is learning this in Iran, but they are on the other side of the world so they can take the L and move on.
Idk if the US gets to walk away from this. How many military bases in the region are still standing? What’s the timeline for replacing all those lost F-15s and C-130s?
We’re not seeing a war in downtown Cincinnati. But the US empire is going to be fundamentally changed from it’s “Push Libya’s shit in because we can” Obama Era recent past.
Empire is crumbling right before our eyes. Well, people voted for it. But it doesn’t threaten shaheds to fly daily over states. Not instantly, at least.
And the same can’t be said about EU, sending shaheds from Belarus = pretty much the whole Europe is in range.
I really hope Europe gets off its ass and both assists Ukraine more, and partners with it for defense technologies. By raw GDP even many of the Euro fish would as big or bigger than the Russian one but we have an MIC that’s almost as bloated and corrupt as the US one. We need to get more efficient with our spending and I expect partnering with Ukraine is the only realistic way for that to happen.
In a way. But Russia is a lot more willing to spill blood.
They’re regularly having weeks as bad as 9/11 and they’re just not all that notable.
If it came down to both countries fighting for their lives like WWII, then yeah, the 20x would be accurate.
What’s with this weird orientalism going on? Talking about Russians like youre some 18th century phrenologist detailing how the Savage hun can withstand harsher climates than the genteel anglo-saxon.
They’re regularly having weeks as bad as 9/11 and they’re just not all that notable.
More than a 9/11 died from covid in the US every week and nobody gave a shit. There’s a shitton of carcrashes, and no one gives a shit. Britain is full of people starving and no one gives a shit. Long term COVID is crippling the population everywhere and no one gives a shit.
The US had a bunch of grunts perish in Operation Epstein Fury, and all it led to was some coverups and no one gives a shit.
This isn’t because the “mind of the mob” is cowed or bred or somehow different from the rest of us. Its because of material conditions. Russia has a lot of military casualties and soldiers on, not because “the Russian mind” or whatever other idealistic dumbassery people in this thread will pull out of their ass, but because of complex political, social, cultural and material structures.I was wondering why you got so heated about a pretty banal comment, then I saw the .ml lol.
Russia sucks dick, the USSR was kinda cool, but its dead and a bunch of oligarchs are living in its corpse. Why are you dick riding a bunch of corpse beetles?
I generally react quite negatively to racism, and I’m happy to hear the instance I frequent has a reputation for doing the same. Cant imagine being proud about ignoring racism.
You would have supported the invasion of Iraq in the 00’s. Or operation Barbarossa if you lived back then. You see calling out racist drivel as somehow being supportive of a country. Not reducing complex geopolitics down to childish notions of “they’re just evil!” is somehow the same as driving a tank into Kiev. It is with the mentality you display that we saw people take up arms in WWI under the notion that they’d be home before Christmas - after all, it was just the dastardly hun that needed a darn good thrashing.
You’re clearly right, ml. Western counties and Russia are equally likely to commit to ground invasions.
Saying anything else would be racist.
Western counties and Russia are equally likely to commit to ground invasions.
I mean, stack the US and Russia against one another for the last 25 years.
Where is the lie?
I think you responded to the wrong comment?
Its not racist to say people from a country suck.
Actually it is. Hating someone based on where they come from is the most basic type of racism there is.
More than a 9/11 died from covid in the US every week and nobody gave a shit
Lots of people gave a shit. That’s the whole reason we had quarantine for over a year.
I don’t think it’s unfair to say that the Russian government’s hard fascist turn in the 90s, and it’s decades of corrosive white nationalist domestic politics, has fucked with the heads of many of it’s residents in a way the squishy libs in Europe and the US aren’t able to conceptualize.
That’s not a “calipers” situation. It’s the end result of Shock Doctrine economics and attendant toxic culture war politics. And it’s not contained to Russia by any means. You see this shit across Eastern Europe and the Middle East. As common in Riyadh and Cairo as Moscow and St. Petersburg.
But it does help to answer the question “Why do Russians seem to have an appetite for endless war that Euros/Americans lack?”
I was pretty close to agreeing with you until we hit the final text
But it does help to answer the question “Why do Russians seem to have an appetite for endless war that Euros/Americans lack?”
Claiming europeans and americans do not have a massive appetite for war is just ridiculous. Thats why I talk about orientalism and calipers. Its pretty clear there’s a good amount of othering going on here, as well as just pure old-fashioned nationalism.
Claiming europeans and americans do not have a massive appetite for war is just ridiculous.
Neither have a draft. Neither have a majority population that actually supports these overseas conflicts. These aren’t popular conflicts by any measure.
That hasn’t always been the case. Americans were gungho about invading Afghanistan after 9/11. And Iraq had majority support in its opening months. But Libya? Syria? Iran? None of these ever did. They provoked popular backlash the day the first shots were fired.
Thats why I talk about orientalism and calipers.
The Russian media having done a better job of manufacturing consent has nothing to do with their skull size. Again, this is the sort of thing Americans used to be good at. Now they blaze ahead without the pretext of public consent, because the US democratic system has become morbund.
Russian state actors do appear significantly more concerned with “winning hearts and minds” than their Western peers. They invest more in propaganda and social controls.
It also helps that this is a border war and not some conflict happening on the other end of the planet. Russians don’t need to read about Ukrainian attacks on Russian soil in the media, they can see it in their own backyards. This isn’t twenty years of “Ukraine is just six months away from an Atom Bomb” Thomas Friedman scare stories. This direct conflict amps up the nationalist urgency, in the same way US attacks into Iran and Yemen ignited a firestorm of militarism fueled by newfound nationalist sentiment.
Its pretty clear there’s a good amount of othering going on here, as well as just pure old-fashioned nationalism.
The Russian government and the US government are not mirrors of one another.
Russia used to have a lot of tanks left over from the soviet union. Ukraine has blown most of them up.
Electrified everything I own because fuck Putin. I think the next think to look at is a battery to use off peak energy. Just looked and it appears some much better capacity/£ options are available since I last looked. Its always looking more and more tempting but then I always think about what if I wait for the next one to come out which is even batter?
Some companies offer modular batteries, so instead of buying like one big 15kWh battery, you can get 3 5kWh batteries. And there’s usually a cabinet or server rack where you can put them together.
That way it’s more scalable and easier to add capacity. And when it’s time to upgrade or replace them, you can do that in smaller steps instead of all at once.
Have wondered about those, not sure how hard it would be to connect to the whole house. A single ring I could probably do quite easily. Think you need proper sockets/plugs to do it safely rather than the technically works but you may die if you touch the pin kinda cable. Then just flip the circuit breaker to remove that ring from the grid.
But that wouldn’t cover cooking or my heat pump. Not sure if that could properly be done as a DIY job.
Though doing 1 ring from the battery would make it pretty easy to measure my non cooking/heating energy usage. Suppose lighting is separate but that should be all LEDs anyway.
To be completely fair, Russia has been the number 1 donor of tanks to Ukraine, so they weren’t all blown up.
And we need all the fish on the right giving missiles to Israel and Israel as it slaughters a little Palestinian fish and they should be sucking off America as they both try to kill the Iran fish.
as the little palestine fish gets dp’d by iran and qatar but is loving it and they get more food and reconstruction aid from the UN fish than anyone else per fish egg but they use iti to build tunnels
and not for shelter of the eggs. thus cursing the eggs to an untimely death by using their homes as human shields
i guess that the sad part of the cartoon
Really showcasing the intelligence of an average Nat-Z here…
Naked fascism.
I wish I lived in the world you insane right-wing freaks make up.
Oh look a zionazi.
Yes, but, nuclear bombs. That matters much less for the usa cause im pretty sure russia literally doesnt have the capabilites to bomb the us cause of missile defense but for europe it matters.
Russia’s potential economy is much bigger though:
- 130M of obedient slaves
- largest land mass in the world
- access to the melting arctic
- loads of natural resources
130M of obedient slaves
Just open, Nazi tier racism. But the shitlibs here will upvote it anyway because they’re just as racist as the worst MAGA chud, so long as it’s against the right target
Obedient slaves.
Yeah man, those simple slavs, their brainpan just isn’t shaped for Democracy™.
Libs and chauvinism go hand in hand
Are they not? I’m a russian language speaker in Thailand right now and everyone who’s not an obedient fool has escaped long time ago or became an obedient slave.
1.5m people either dead or disabled by the war, economy on the brink of collapse, completely outcast from the cosmopolitan world - is that not obedient slavery?
You vastly underestimate how poor a bunch of Russians are, the poor class often stays behind when a crisis hits. While the middle and upper classes use their wealth and connections to jump the boat.
Most refugees were relative to their country, not poor.
Stays behind when crisis hit? The crisis is of their own doing. Russia is a rotten country and a rotten culture that has no one else to blame.
I generally don’t like destructive change like revolution but Russians will never recover, never. The culture is so far gone and so broken and so passive that the best thing that could happen to an average russian is complete dissolution of the entire Russian project into independent smaller states.
I generally don’t like destructive change like revolution but Russians will never recover, never. The culture is so far gone and so broken and so passive that the best thing that could happen to an average russian is complete dissolution of the entire Russian project into independent smaller states.
What a simplistic and reductive worldview. You would do well as an orientalist professor at Oxford in the 1800’s. You should look into phrenology.
All you’re saying here could be said about most nations, as I exemplified with Britain.
Yeah man, its like when I hear the poors complain about stress. Why don't they simply take a vacation?
“Since I speak english this means I have a unique insight into the mind of the anglo-saxon, and let me tell you, if they haven’t uprooted themselves from Albion, then that means they’re mindless dolts, unlike me: A person who simply moved to Thailand. Whats stopping them? Why do they not simply overthrow their heinous monarch? It must be because the simple bog-dwellers cannot comprehend morality” <- You, in an alternate universe.
completely out cast from the Cosmopolitan world.
Lmao what a delusional eurocentric take. “The Cosmopolitan world” somehow consists of the US and parts of Europe. Alright bud. Whatever shall the Russians do, now that they can only trade with most of the world? Im sure they’re crying over the lack of paperwork, while they have to settle for trading with China, India, well- really all of Asia.
Kanye isn’t the only one that loves fish sticks
Trump asks Zelensky to not attack Russian refineries.
Imagine your country having been invaded, Russia is trying to kill you, has brought in soldiers not just from Russia but from other countries. You’ve toured countless bombed cities, and regularly see soldiers and civilians, men, women, and children missing limbs. You regularly get casualty numbers, names, and stories of your fellow countrymen… for years. Year after year.
…and some fat American President who watches Fox news and is a child rapist, is telling you to go easy on the country invading you.
Yeah, being a US vassal tends to be detrimental in the long run.
It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy but it is deadly to be their ally
- Henry Kissinger (paraphrased)
Ukraine has kept bombing Russian refineries regardless of what the US says. Good for them.
Ukraine is far from a US vassal state, they also have Europe on their side and have developed domestic military power beyond anyone’s imagination in 2022. They haven’t been listening to Trump at all
Ahh yes, Europe, famously not just an extension of US foreign policy. Its not like the US has spent decades shaping politics in Europe through things like Operation Gladio. Its not as if most of the European nations house American military bases or support the US in all its insane foreign involvements. Its not as if Europe is just spitting billions to Israel. Yeah Europe is totally a separate entity from the US, and with the destruction of Nord Stream 2 its not like the Europeans are reliant on US LNG. Or, you know, the slow devolution of German industry certainty doesn’t envelop Europe under the American curtain even more.
You’re naive if you dont consider the majority of European countries to be little more than US proxies.Charles de Gaulle was right about the atlanticists.
And Ukraine has been a US playground since 2014, do you not read up on foreign policy before discussing it? Both Trump and Viden have had massive corruption scandals tied to Ukraine. The Ukrainian post-coup government was hand-picked by the US, there’s even leaked conversations of the picking being done.
Charles de Gaulle was right about the atlanticists.
I have strong negative feelings about Gaulle but he had balls I’ll give him that
Me too, but I can’t disagree with him about the anglos or on what he said about China.
The Ukrainian post-coup government was hand-picked by the US, there’s even leaked conversations of the picking being done.
Right wing national groups, famously large ultras were just way better organised than any other group in Ukraine.
That’s the very short conclusion, for why the initial cabinet was full on nationalists.
Sure. That, and the fact that the cabinet was hand-picked by the US, as was shown through leaked phone calls.
Besides that another question one might ask is “Why were the right wing militias so much better supplied and organised?”
Because sports fans are psychos is the very short answer. The former president didn’t feel the need to suppress Ultra organisations, as he saw them as weekend warriors fighting one another.
It’s quite common world wide that football ultras are among the best organised groups in their local arena. Same shit happened in Brazil, for the protests that ended up getting Jair elected - Despite the majority of demonstrators on the street being fairly left wing. The Ultras were organised cells, that managed to capture the movement and give Jair the much needed push to be a true contender
You know, I don’t think sports clubs are inherently right wing. More likely the left was selectively targeted like they always are.
Jair Bolsonaro? The other guy who got installed with the backing of the US? You dont ever stop to consider that maybe there’s more going on than just “people being psychos”? You dont ever stop to wonder why these movements happen to have the resources, skills and manpower necessary to organise and mobilise right on cue to install some stooge picked out by the US state dept? You really just contend yourself with “because people are crazy”?
You missed the part where the Viden one was all projection and made up.
As far as I can tell Hunter Biden did have some do-nothing job in the Ukrainian energy sector. Whether or not the specifics of the case were enough for the courts to act doesn’t really matter all that much to me. These two cases are also just handy examples to use when one wishes to point out that Ukraine, after 2014, was the US’s playground.
Cute that you think Europe isnt also vassalized too.
JK Rowling really likes to make the villains in her books fat. Umbridge, Vernon, Dudley, Goyle. The characters who embody bullying are nearly always fat. She thinks a person’s weight is okay to make fun of if they’re a bad person. Rowling fans like to cite Molly as a counterexample, but I think that’s missing the point. The fact that the narrator is so mean about these characters’ weight makes it clear that weight is on the table as something to make fun of, if Rowling thinks you deserve it. She thinks being fat is shameful, she’s just polite when she talks about nice (cis) people.
There’s a lot of people who think the same way as Rowling when they talk about Trump.
… Okay? Who the fuck cares about little miss TERF?
The point went right over your head
I think at least China, Iran and North Korea could be added as participants on Russia’s side
Also EU still buys oil/gas and last time I read news that South Korea thinking of shipping gasoline to russia (cause Ukraine destroyed russian refineries), I think Kazahstan too. On top of that many close counties still provide place to import stuff.
Even tho I fled russia, I still talk with a friend there, we recently discussed prices for CPUs: I bought 9950x3d for about ~750 euro, same CPU in russia cost ~400 euro. Are they really under sanctions?
Are we counting Belarus as its own country or as the puppet state it actually is?
More of a remora, aka suckerfish.
Why would you count Belarus Oblast as its own country??
The pedant in me cant help but point out that that isnt how shark anatomy works. Male sharks have two analogous structures, called claspers, and they are located on the back of their pelvic fins.
Really I should have said this
Stereo penises.
Humans have fingers. That’s like 5.1 surround penis
Both.
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