Watching Star Trek Strange New Worlds, I’m enjoying so far after watching season 1, but I personally think Paramount appeals for nostalgia more than a new public, specially with lots and lots of reference who only fans will catch.

And I start to remembering those people who complaing about Star Wars or Fallout, with the idea of franchises which need a 360 grades turn to bring something new, for example, Fallout fans complain about the overuse of Broterhood of Steel, something I think is a silly thing to complaing since is almost the face of Fallout franchise is a whole.

But my question is; do Star Trek fans has the same opinions and thoughts? Of letting go the franchise?

Image as example, also, I’m waiting for respectful discussion and not flamewar.

  • StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Star Trek is great. It’s always been great. The problems with it are, in part, manufactured for engagement.

    It has bad episodes, and some series are worse than others, but it’s something we need.

    It dreams of a better future and each series touches on the problems of our modern age in a way that is inclusive.

    As some people age, they out pace the societal inequalities that star trek advocates for solving and they get angry. We haven’t solved the problems of TOS or TNG, but we’ve muted them somewhat.

    If I have one legitimate complaint for Star Trek it isn’t that it’s ‘woke.’

    My complaint is that it is more often starting to suffocate under the weight of its own history and lore. Most new content will somehow reference the old content at least once.

    Discovery did great stuff with the Trill and non-binary stuff that just…made sense. In general Discovery was really good in it’s last few seasons. I like Starfleet Academy too. I think it exists in the franchise and in the present world well. It’s a meta narrative about figuring out what Starfleet will be going forward. I haven’t watched a Star Trek show that i didn’t find something of value in.

    Searching on YouTube you would think it’s the worst show ever. (It’s not, but I don’t think it will get the standard three seasons to figure out it’s formula)

    All of this is just context for my answer to the question.

    As a Star Trek fan and an Ally I do think it’s time to let it rest. Maybe not forever but for now.

    We need it’s hope but we also need something that isn’t clinging to the past (again why I really like Starfleet Academy because in some episodes it discusses this in meta narrative)

    When you constantly have writers catering to the shows history, producers sabatoging production, and agitators stirring the pot for any number of reasons then it’s time to let it rest.

    I want a future star trek that isn’t called star trek. I want a show that is loud in it’s statements of social justice but chooses it’s moments to scream them so it can actually touch the hearts and minds of the people watching it. Star Trek is for everyone. That can’t change.

    We do still get that, but with it is always the weight of the franchise’s history.

    I hate The Burn(more accurately i hate the cause of the burn), just like in doctor who I hate The Timeless Child.

    I also understand that these writing decisions are often made as a way to try to keep the franchise fresh. A new series wouldn’t have the baggage of having to navigate history and could tell the same kinds of stories.

    We have to accept that Star Trek is almost like scifi’s version of the Simpsons. It’s done everything. If it continues then it may continue like The Simspons. That is to say stale. Relevant only by way of the fact that it is making references to current events and it’s own history.

    I don’t want that for Star Trek.

    P.s. Burnham was a good captain.