We have decided some brain quirks are disorders (and get accommodations, as is compassionate), whilst others are flaws (and get slurs). But no one picks their hardware. You cannot earn a better prefrontal cortex or deserve a calmer amygdala. Nor does one get to pick the environment they are born in, which will inform their choices later in life. Even the capacity to “learn better” is a roll of the dice, some brains start the race with sprinting shoes, others with lead weights.

So when we call someone stupid, lazy or insane we are not describing a choice, but simply announcing which kinds of unlucky we’ve decided are worthy of scorn.

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    Now then, you’re only upset about this because you were programmed to be. Those people calling other aren’t bad for calling someone stupid or lazy if they don’t have free will.

    If you assume free will doesn’t exist, evil or good doesn’t either. Murder or curing cancer, it’s like the sun shining, and inavoidable, neutral fact. Of course you may dismiss this as rambling idiocy, but I won’t hold it against a clockwork automaton.

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      Those people calling other aren’t bad for calling someone stupid or lazy if they don’t have free will.

      You have grasped it.

      If you assume free will doesn’t exist, evil or good doesn’t either.

      Correct.

      Murder or curing cancer, it’s like the sun shining, and inavoidable, neutral fact.

      Correct.

      Of course you may dismiss this as rambling idiocy, but I won’t hold it against a clockwork automaton.

      No, you have grasped exactly what I said, at least on the level of the intellect. I realize of course you resist as it goes against what you merely WISH to be true. This I cannot do anything about, as you said. But you have understood perfectly. Well done!

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        Well, this conversation is really pointless then. Kind of embarrassing that the universe compelled you to post this drivel regarding a fight against nothing, but it can’t be helped.

        I wonder why you insist on a language of agency if it isn’t what you believe.

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          Oh if only humanity did have an universally agreed upon meaning and point, so much strife could be avoided. Alas, such a thing does not exist in reality, but only in the minds of people. Those ever malleable and shifting minds.

          I do as I do because because I am compelled, indeed! Because I wish to see less cruelty in the world. It is simplicity itself. And if I spoke in full truth, I would never say anything at all.

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            Cruelty implies a choice. It doesn’t exist in a world without free will. So you’ve succeeded, seeing the world is free of cruelty. What is next for you?

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              Cruelty is merely a label we put upon an action we find harmful. Like every word, it is made up.

              No word is the thing it points to. Except perhaps the word, “word” itself. Every word I have written is a small lie.

              One does not go around licking recipes in order to taste the dish.

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                Well, then use the words you mean. Cruelty was clearly an incorrect one. We can’t exchange ideas effectively of you refuse to use words with their assigned meaning.