• bearboiblake@pawb.socialOP
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      7 hours ago

      If you always vote blue no matter who then there is no long-term harm reduction, it actually increases overall harm to have that philosophy. If you aren’t willing to withhold your support and vote third party then there is no incentive for democrats to try and win your vote.

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        That’s not at all how voting works. You get a wet noodle or a psychopath. The correct way to deal with the democratic party is to make them more afraid of democrat voters than republican voters.

        You don’t get that by “strategic voting” or whatever nerd shit you’re talking about. You get that by doing what the french do and by creating chaos, legitimate fear and headaches for them until they give into demands. You shut down trains and airports until they break, which they will because they’re losers.

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          You can check my other comments where I advocate for the same stuff that you do! My point is that voting for the Democrats does not genuinely provide long-term harm reduction, it’s a fallacy. I think there are a few options for resolving that problem, and I encourage everyone to take whatever options they feel best.

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            The democrats are the wet noodles. If you let the psychopaths win none of this stuff works because they’ll happilly kill everyone on earth.

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              The democrats are also psychopaths, dude, I don’t know what to tell you. Biden & Harris supported genocide, Nancy Pelosi stood and applauded Trump at the state of the union ranting about how we need to invade Iran. They’re not just wet noodles, they are actively fucking evil as fuck, you just aren’t seeing it because Trump is so obviously evil and the Democrats are subtle.

              We don’t need to settle for these cryptofascists. We can effect REAL CHANGE if we just stop all the defeatism.

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                I viewed it the same way, but largely the moment has passed for this rationale to work. When the democrats and republicans were similar enough for it to work, 3rd parties could have done something. But like nowhere in the world has anyone voted themselves out of fascism. 3rd parties are what you do before fascism arrives in full.

                I vote for dems now because there’s a chance Trump will attempt to forcibly override the election and if he does it makes our task of dismantling the fascist projects and their media much easier.

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                  4 hours ago

                  The Democrats would not dismantle fascism, they embrace it, and stick a progressive coat of paint on it. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.

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                    I don’t think you’re reading what was written. Voting won’t fix fascism. Period. 3rd parties won’t fix anything at this point, if anything it would align both parties against it. Democrats would gleefully align with republicans to crush a third party right now

                    The hope here is to create a conflict between trump and his media and democrats and their media with the best case scenario being heavy backlash to democrat politicians from trump aligned politicians.